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    Re: First shed

    I'm not trying to say it's wrong not to bathe them, or trying to convince anyone that you should, I just want him to have a good shed, and through research and others experiences, I decided to try it. Please don't get offended, it was not my intention to do so. Here's some proof of soaking being helpful, if I need to find more, I can do that.

    Recently one of my snakes shed. I checked in on his tank to check humidity and he peed, so I took the opportunity to clean the tank. My snake reeked of snake pee, so I put him in a bin with warm water. As soon as I put him back in the tank, he started to work on loosening up the skin on his face. I'm not sure if putting him in the water provoked him to shed, but it was the cleanest shed I've ever had.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LivingwithBalls View Post
    I'm not trying to say it's wrong not to bathe them, or trying to convince anyone that you should, I just want him to have a good shed, and through research and others experiences, I decided to try it. Please don't get offended, it was not my intention to do so. Here's some proof of soaking being helpful, if I need to find more, I can do that.

    Recently one of my snakes shed. I checked in on his tank to check humidity and he peed, so I took the opportunity to clean the tank. My snake reeked of snake pee, so I put him in a bin with warm water. As soon as I put him back in the tank, he started to work on loosening up the skin on his face. IM NOT SURE if putting him in the water provoked him to shed, but it was the cleanest shed I've ever had.



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    "I'm not sure" to me would not make me think I should try something.

    If however there was countless threads on how soaking BPs had the best cleanest sheds ever, I would most probably try it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRMD94 View Post
    "I'm not sure" to me would not make me think I should try something.

    If however there was countless threads on how soaking BPs had the best cleanest sheds ever, I would most probably try it out.
    If you want I can find some more examples for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LivingwithBalls View Post
    If you want I can find some more examples for you.


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    You don't need to find examples for me because I won't be bathing my BP he has never had a bad shed and never been bathed. You need to do more research for yourself, best of luck with the shed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRMD94 View Post
    You don't need to find examples for me because I won't be bathing my BP he has never had a bad shed and never been bathed. You need to do more research for yourself, best of luck with the shed.
    No worries, what works for you is what you should keep doing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SRMD94 View Post
    It can remove essential oils from the skin that aid the BP in shedding. Why would something be recommended that would cause the animal stress?
    Is this scientifically proven theory , incidentally ??

    I'm no expert by any means but I've been keeping all manner of snakes for many years and never , ever heard of this idea , especially as oil isn't soluble in water.

    . I even tried googling it and the only links came back to this site ...

    If it is correct , there should be a thread made explaining everything in detail and made into a forum "sticky" .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    Is this scientifically proven theory , incidentally ??

    I'm no expert by any means but I've been keeping all manner of snakes for many years and never , ever heard of this idea , especially as oil isn't soluble in water.

    . I even tried googling it and the only links came back to this site ...

    If it is correct , there should be a thread made explaining everything in detail and made into a forum "sticky" .
    I'm not sure if their is a scientific theory on the matter but if you think about what is really happening during the shedding process it makes a bit more sense. During the blue phase of a snakes shed cycle there is a fluid that builds up between the old skin and the new skin which is what makes the snake look so discolored during this time. Once the new skin has been successfully separated from the old skin the snakes colors go back to normal as it approaches the time it's going to slough off the old skin. I believe that soaking your snake during this blue phase interrupts the separating of the old skin from the new causing a bad patchy shed or even a completely stuck shed because the fluid that separates the skin was washed away. When my first snake was younger I used to soak him when he started to show signs of going into shed and most of the time he would have bad flakey sheds that I needed to help him remove but sometimes he would have a nice clean shed. I no longer soak any of my snakes. I just mist and provide the proper humidity range and they shed perfectly. You could possibly soak your snake after the blue phase and maybe it would result in a clean shed. But I would rather not stress my snakes out with a soak when they are already stressed by the shedding process itself. I'd rather just leave them be until they have completed the shed. I hope this is helpful and makes things a little more clear. I know it's hard to find good accurate info on certain bp matters sometimes.
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    Re: First shed

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexisFitzy View Post
    I'm not sure if their is a scientific theory on the matter but if you think about what is really happening during the shedding process it makes a bit more sense. During the blue phase of a snakes shed cycle there is a liquid that builds up between the old skin and the new skin which is what makes the snake look so discolored during this time. Once the new skin has been successfully separated from the old skin the snakes colors go back to normal as it approaches the time it's going to slough off the old skin. I believe that soaking your snake during this blue phase interrupts the separating of the old skin from the new causing a bad patchy shed or even a completely stuck shed because the liquid the separates the skin was washed away. When my first snake was younger I used to soak him when he started to show signs of going into shed and most of the time he would have bad flakey sheds that I needed to help him remove but sometimes he would have a nice clean shed. I no longer soak any of my snakes. I just mist and provide the proper humidity range and they shed perfectly. You could possibly soak your snake after the blue phase and maybe it would result in a clean shed. But I would rather not stress my snakes out with a soak when they are already stressed by the shedding process itself. I'd rather just leave them be until they have completed the shed. I hope this is helpful and makes things a little more clear. I know it's hard to find good accurate info on certain bp matters sometimes.
    From what I've seen in various threads ... the advice given was for a short soak AFTER the blue phase when the snake was back to normal colour ... I've not seen any suggestion of soaking before or during the "blue phase" ..




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    Re: First shed

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    From what I've seen in various threads ... the advice given was for a short soak AFTER the blue phase when the snake was back to normal colour ... I've not seen any suggestion of soaking before or during the "blue phase" ..
    Hmmm I'm never really ever seen people specify a before or after blue phase when they are advising a soak. Most just say "try soaking your snake to help with the shed" so the person asking the question will soak at any stage of the shed cycle. But many of us just find it a lot easier and more beneficial/less stressful to the snake when you just bump up the humidity a bit. But hey it's whatever works best for the individual and their animals.

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    Re: First shed

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexisFitzy View Post
    Hmmm I'm never really ever seen people specify a before or after blue phase when they are advising a soak. Most just say "try soaking your snake to help with the shed" so the person asking the question will soak at any stage of the shed cycle. But many of us just find it a lot easier and more beneficial/less stressful to the snake when you just bump up the humidity a bit. But hey it's whatever works best for the individual and their animals.
    Well in this very thread , the op mentioned that the snake was out of blue and wandering around and that's when a few hinted about the idea of soaking .....




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