Rejoining

[DVirginiana]

One of the main reasons I'm not taking advice from this forum regarding heating, is because none of it makes logical sense. For example, I have two whites tree frogs, and am on frog forum. Well, they constantly tell me that my frogs need fecal tests and that my substrate is bad. I have had these frogs for a year now and they are happy and healthy, while another person on the forum did all the stuff I didn't, including fecal testing, and giving her frogs medications. One of her frogs has died, and the others are sick.

I shared that example because it proves that less is more. You do not need extra all the time. My snake will not die nor does he even care if I don't get a thermostat.

I'm also a member on frog forum and own a WTF as well as a pacman. Fecals are recommended if the animal is acting sick, is going to live in a communal setup, or when the owner has a very large frog collection. The person you're talking about is probably dealing with something communicable and unrelated to basic care.

Your example does NOTHING to prove that 'less is more' as you put it. WTFs are tough to kill. Owning them for a year doesn't mean anything. When you've owned those frogs for another 12 years, then maybe what you say about it would have some weight. Just because an animal isn't dead or dying doesn't mean it's being correctly kept.

In the wild, ball pythons come across all sorts of different temperatures, including low and high. Having a constant ambient temp of 80 provides no way for Marshall to escape unwanted heat, hence the reason for a hot side and a cool side.

Yes the heat pad itself is about 120f. On the surface inside the cave where Marshall lays is 90-92f.

Please read this whole post if you want to comment, not just skim through it.


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In the wild, ball pythons do not live in areas with 70 degree ambient temperatures all the time. Thousands of them also die every year from starvation, exposure, and predation. We don't need to mimic the less pleasant aspects of nature in our setups.

Yes the heat pad itself is about 120f. On the surface inside the cave where Marshall lays is 90-92f.

You do not know this, since you've been measuring with the wrong kind of thermometer or the broken one.