What is the most humane way to "brain" a rat?

[Foolish1]

Don't feel bad nucklehead. Every English farm the raises chicken snap necks or use blunt force trauma. I raise amazing food. Eat my chicken or turkeys. The meat tastes different when the animal is afraid of death or stressed. I guarantee. Literally guarentee. Chicken killed with my barbaric method quote unquote tastes better because the death is fast.

[mohawk]

Okay Deborah I understand that you have been here longer than me and respect your opinion but in my original post I politely asked to not be attacked for my choices as I am trying to be better educated in care for both feeders and snakes. So Deborah if you can't resist attacking me for not doing something "right" (the way you do it) then just don't reply please. Again I am new to the hobby so I am still learning. I understand what you are trying to do but judging me on how I feed my snakes is not the way to do it, besides it's not like I microwave them or make them suffer besides the minute or two they are conscience and I agree that that is too much suffering for any animal.

Actually according to the AVMA Site, Microwaving is also used to Euthanize rodents .......

M3.11 FOCUSED BEAM
MICROWAVE IRRADIATION
Heating by focused beam microwave irradiation is used primarily by neurobiologists to fix brain metabolites in vivo while maintaining the anatomic integrity of the brain.410 Microwave instruments have been specifically designed for use in euthanasia of laboratory mice and rats.

[Foolish1]

You and your reading. This forum has no place for facts or science.

[Foolish1]

Who can we message about being attacked by mods? I have seen this for a month now.

It is barbaric and inhuman and you have NO BUSINESS feeding pre-killed or f/t if you cannot euthanize the prey HUMANELY which means CO2 or cervical dislocation.

Owning snakes means having respect for the prey item also, wonder why people look at us snake owners the way they do, look no further, throwing rats on walls, bashing their hear several times on a table, using hammers, pulling teeth etc.....such a positive image



Learn to dispatch the prey and maybe people will refrain from bashing, educate yourself https://www.avma.org/KB/Policies/Doc...euthanasia.pdf

As for braining it is done post mortem so I fail to see why at this point you want to do this humanly when you fail do do the rest humanly???

Beyond linking something that refutes everything you said what good does this post serve. How are you supposed to moderate when you attack new members instantly so fiercely. Honestly. He was corgial and curious.

[Foolish1]

To any other mod reading this. I have gotten 3 private messages from members wishing to leave this community because of certain moderators actions. Literally you are losing add sale revenue and member support due to certain moderators.

People want to ask questions without being scolded. They are looking for forums where people are nice.

[mohawk]

Holy Cow ...... you never read that AVMA Site at all, Did You ????

It clearly states that killing with CO2 is painful to both Humans, and Animals :

Carbon dioxide has the potential to cause distress in animals via three different mechanisms: (1) pain due
to formation of carbonic acid on respiratory and ocular membranes, (2) production of so-called air hunger and a feeling of breathlessness, and (3) direct stimulation of ion channels within the amygdala associated with the fear response.
Carbon dioxide may cause pain due to the forma:cens0r:tion of carbonic acid when it contacts moisture on the respiratory and ocular membranes. In humans, rats, and cats, most nociceptors begin to respond at CO2 con:cens0r:centrations of approximately 40%.218–221 Humans report discomfort begins at 30% to 50% CO2, and intensifies to overt pain with higher concentrations.222

Wow !! People need to EDUCATE themselves before spewing forth UN-TRUTHS !!!

[nucklehead97]

Actually according to the AVMA Site, Microwaving is also used to Euthanize rodents .......

M3.11 FOCUSED BEAM
MICROWAVE IRRADIATION
Heating by focused beam microwave irradiation is used primarily by neurobiologists to fix brain metabolites in vivo while maintaining the anatomic integrity of the brain.410 Microwave instruments have been specifically designed for use in euthanasia of laboratory mice and rats.

Oh man that made me laugh but you know what I meant. I don't make the rats suffer for long periods of time or make them panic.

[Foolish1]

Funny enough I found all that information not on the site SHE linked. So the science community, animal community, death row inmate activists, veterinarian, physicists and doctors all agree. Strange huh.

[Foolish1]

Permission to be blown away. Is this all a joke or do people seriously link information that refutes everything they are saying while attacking others and dismissing truth.

[Eric Alan]

Manually applied blunt force trauma to the head can be a humane method of euthanasia for neonatal animals with thin craniums if a single sharp blow delivered to the central skull bones with sufficient force can produce immediate depression of the CNS and destruction of brain tissue.

Please read the rest of the sentence for instances in which this method is considered acceptable. Our feeder animals are not in a perpetual neonatal state.