Okay Deborah I understand that you have been here longer than me and respect your opinion but in my original post I politely asked to not be attacked for my choices as I am trying to be better educated in care for both feeders and snakes. So Deborah if you can't resist attacking me for not doing something "right" (the way you do it) then just don't reply please. Again I am new to the hobby so I am still learning. I understand what you are trying to do but judging me on how I feed my snakes is not the way to do it, besides it's not like I microwave them or make them suffer besides the minute or two they are conscience and I agree that that is too much suffering for any animal.