Honey Bee Confusion ...

[T_Sauer]

I've had a "Honey Bee" for close to a year now ... I just recently was messing around with the genetics calculator and discovered that if you do a search it recognizes "Honey Bee" as a orange ghost / spider ... However it links ghost / spider to " honey bee" as well ..... This has caused some confusion in my currently bored state of mind .... Can I get some of you who have worked on " Honey Bee" projects to weigh in and break this down for me please?

[Eric Alan]

I think your confusion lies within the Ghost part of this combo. Orange Ghosts are the most common line, but there are also Yellow, Green, and Desert Ghosts. Not all Ghost lines are compatible (Desert and Green are not), but when someone is referring to an animal as just a Ghost (or Ghost combo), they're typically referring to the most common version.

[T_Sauer]

I apologize allow me to elaborate a lil more ... I have started keeping a log book and for each snake I put their morph at the very top of the page and below I am putting each gene that the snake carries .... I am trying to figure out if I put down "Ghost/Spider" or "Orange Ghost/Spider" .... As they are two different recessive genes

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[Eric Alan]

As they are two different recessive genes

Are you sure about that? If you're going by the Genetic Wizard, this morph's results is a know flaw (compatibility of Ghost lines).

A Honey Bee is a Ghost Spider, an Orange Ghost Spider and a Hypo Spider. All different names for the same animal.

[T_Sauer]

I understand Ghost and Hypo are the same thing ... I'm having a hard time understand where the "Orange" fits in ... And now since you have mentioned it ... Yellow desert and green ... What's with the colors?!?!

[Eric Alan]

Some reading for ya: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...he-ghost-lines

It's a couple years old, but the information hasn't really changed.

[T_Sauer]

Thank you !! I'm still learning LOL .. I definitely don't mind doing the reading and research on my own ... I think one understands it better when they do it that way ... But sometimes need some guidance to find that info LOL thanks again!

[coldbloodaddict]

Don't put Ghost at all because is not one!

It is a Spider Hypo. Hypo is short for Hypomelanistic!

Ghost is an Axanthic/Hypo Combo.


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[T_Sauer]

Now I may be somewhat of a noob still, but I strongly disagree with your statement ... Ghost has nothing to do with Axanthic .... Axanthic is dealing with the lack of yellow or in some cases red pigment and this boy has plenty of yellow ... While I do agree that Axanthic's have more of an appearance of what you would expect from the word "ghost" being as most Axanthic's are all black and grey and white .... It just simply is not the case ... The definition of the word axanthic pretty much self explains that

[T_Sauer]

But from what I hear , the word "Ghost" always tends to strike up one of those ice age old debates which is why many ppl prefer to just use the word "Hypo" now days ... Guess I may have just opened a can of worms with this thread .... Oops