triple gene bananabutter yellowbelly.

[TessadasExotics]

no super butters are completely white. they are leusistic wich means they have no pigment, so there will be no color or markings

yes and no. Some super bels will have markings depending on what is in the combo. I'm willing to bet that a super butter/lesser Banana would look different.

[ARBallMorphs]

the only way to be sure there is another gene in a super butter is having one of the butters to also be a super pastel for example.

so when you have a butter x butter super pastel breeding, all hatchlings will have pastel in them, also the super butter BUT you wont be able to see it

[ARBallMorphs]

btw, do you have an pic of that banana ivory? never seen one

[TessadasExotics]

Not mine so I wont post pics of it..... About the super lesser/butter pastel thing..... Some Bels do have ghost markings. Just saying. It depends on whats in it. I am also willing to bet that the Banana would show through.
I could be wrong, but I think it would and Im sure its been made already.

[ARBallMorphs]

well could bebut i wouldnt take that chance unless i had the space to hold back every BEL that came from that clutch to prove out if they have banana or not, still even IF the banana would show the Yellow belly doesn't in the super butter.

i have used google and found some picture indeed from some one who "thinks" one of the Ivory's he hatched has banana in it, but tbh i don't see it.

but even if it is just me who doesn't see it the ivory usually has more pigment and isn't realy leucistic and the super butter form of BEL are very often completely white.

BEL with Mojave does pretty often show some pattern indeed

[ARBallMorphs]

But i am only talking out of my own experience and what i have seen, i could be wrong but i wouldnt take the chance.

[OhhWatALoser]

no super butters are completely white. they are leusistic wich means they have no pigment, so there will be no color or markings

Remember, just because we call them lucy, doesn't make them actually complete lucy.

besides super lemonbacks and super bamboos (which have a small sample size, so not a great example), no other combo can be called complete lucy 100% of the time. even some super lesser/butter have faint yellow markings and some have markings near their eyes. Then there are combos which faintly show and some that destroy the lucy, lucy enchi for example.

[ARBallMorphs]

that is why i said i was only taking out of my own experience and from what i have seen.

and that i wouldnt take the chance.

same as i wouldn't pair my lesser pastel to an other animal in the blue eyed lucy complex and neither would i breed an fire+other gene to my super fire just because you can't know for sure if there is more gene's at play then the gene's that made the leucistic.

[darren888]

I'm to new at this game to understand most of that anyway as said already strong healthy snakes are the main thing, I'm trying to post photos but can't can someone share a e mail address and I'll send them to you to post?

[Eric Alan]

I'm to new at this game to understand most of that anyway as said already strong healthy snakes are the main thing, I'm trying to post photos but can't can someone share a e mail address and I'll send them to you to post?

How to Post Pictures: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-Post-Pictures