Why not to cohabitate any snake

[Rob]

Opps...apparently not keeping up as well I Should be.

My stance as always on this.
Can it be done successfully, yes. Should it be? As long as you know that no matter how long you've been doing it for, there is a risk involved. In my eyes that is an unnecessary risk.

[calmolly1]

Wow...sorry I spoke. I was really enjoying this forum, learning loads, and sharing what THE EXPERIENCED people on here have shared many times. In this instance "snakes cohabitating". I'm not going to spend two hours trolling through the forum to find the many different times this has been bashed, to the point it made an impression on me as something not to do. Now, because I'm new to snakes generally, if I pass on what these self same experts told me I'm wrong?? Really? Or is it just you don't want people to actually learn what you preach, and especially not pass it on? And skiploader I don't give a crap what you do with your snakes, I'm not going to put mine together. And since you do not know me, or what I'm successful at, your post is nothing short of rude and insulting. And this isn't the first time I've read posts from some of the members that have been in here the longest bashing folks for asking questions or passing on information they have been given. I had no idea I wasn't allowed to comment. But trust me I won't anymore, as my opinions and questions are obviously somehow putting a few of you on the attack.


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[TheSnakeEye]

Wow a lot of hostility for no reason. One thing is speaking your mind, another is responding as if someone just tried to destroy your life. Take it easy people and stop being so nit-picky. Anyway, unfortunate event. I'm sure there's more to why it happened than just packing them up together.

I will say this though, it's impressive how strong of a feeding drive they can as well as how strong the muscles used to swallow are. We couldn't swallow something much larger than our throat. Yet this little thing swallowed an animal so large it stretched out it's skin so much you can see the meal being swallowed.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Funny I am not seeing hostility or bashing, I am seeing people who are overly sensitive and see someone's opinion as that.

Bottom line keep your snake the way you want it's all about being responsible and knowledgeable kind of like the old live vs f/t debate.

[Skiploder]

Wow...sorry I spoke. I was really enjoying this forum, learning loads, and sharing what THE EXPERIENCED people on here have shared many times. In this instance "snakes cohabitating". I'm not going to spend two hours trolling through the forum to find the many different times this has been bashed, to the point it made an impression on me as something not to do. Now, because I'm new to snakes generally, if I pass on what these self same experts told me I'm wrong?? Really? Or is it just you don't want people to actually learn what you preach, and especially not pass it on? And skiploader I don't give a crap what you do with your snakes, I'm not going to put mine together. And since you do not know me, or what I'm successful at, your post is nothing short of rude and insulting. And this isn't the first time I've read posts from some of the members that have been in here the longest bashing folks for asking questions or passing on information they have been given. I had no idea I wasn't allowed to comment. But trust me I won't anymore, as my opinions and questions are obviously somehow putting a few of you on the attack.


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The incident in question had nothing to do with co-habitating. You drew the wrong conclusion as did the OP.

There are many species of snakes that are routinely kept together. Commenting that NO snake can EVER be kept together is...well...uninformed.

Now go back and read my response to your post. If after reading it you somehow thing that what you do, what you're successful at, or that my post is bashing and you wish to remain insulted, well...I'm sure I'll find a way to soldier on in life.

A group of skinny possibly starving snakes were crammed in together and a completely avoidable accident occurred. Nobody was co-habitating anything. In fact I'm sure these snakes were probably kept in tidy little tupperware tubs. The fact that some people feel the need to draw a conclusion about this and relate it to co-habitating ANY snake species is absurd.

Let me draw up a little list of facts that are not facts that are bandied about as such on forums:

- No snake species can be cohabitated.
- Ball pythons require belly heat.
- Pine substrate will kill or compromise the health of your snakes.
- Ball pythons do not eat birds.
- Ball pythons do not climb.
- 6 months of quarantine protects you against all diseases.
- Ingested wood substrate causes impactions.
- Regurgitation is the same as vomiting.
- Soaking a snake before a shed is an acceptable method of ensuring a complete shed.
- Removing retained eye caps should be attempted at home with some tape.

This community gets smarter and subsequently can make better keepers out of people new to the hobby when people stop spreading information that is wrong or parroting advice in which they have no direct experience.

This community gets dumber when people mindless spread bad info and draw incorrect conclusions.

Now if you don't like what I have to say - then block me. It will not hurt my feelings, and apparently, it will spare you yours.

[calmolly1]

What in the world? I have no idea why my response to these pictures, which incidentally is the same as about 4 people who commented before me, has upset your "feelings" so badly. You are making generalized assumptions about the snakes involved because you see one skinny snake in the picture. I am entitled to my opinion, and as the nature of forums is to both ask and share opinions, you do not have the right to decide if what I practice with my animals or what I share of my experiences. Your list of practices that you infer are wrong are not necessarily the opinions of others. Just because you say it doesn't make it so.

So you are inferring that by taking part in this forum I am lowering the quality of it. Exactly what bad info have I spread? I stated MY opinion. I choose for many reasons, including lack of the appropriate knowledge to keep my snakes separate. That does not make me mindless.


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[AlexisFitzy]

Funny I am not seeing hostility or bashing, I am seeing people who are overly sensitive and see someone's opinion as that.

Bottom line keep your snake the way you want it's all about being responsible and knowledgeable kind of like the old live vs f/t debate.

I completely agree. This thread just escalated so quickly for no reason. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[Skiploder]

What in the world? I have no idea why my response to these pictures, which incidentally is the same as about 4 people who commented before me, has upset your "feelings" so badly. You are making generalized assumptions about the snakes involved because you see one skinny snake in the picture. I am entitled to my opinion, and as the nature of forums is to both ask and share opinions, you do not have the right to decide if what I practice with my animals or what I share of my experiences. Your list of practices that you infer are wrong are not necessarily the opinions of others. Just because you say it doesn't make it so.

So you are inferring that by taking part in this forum I am lowering the quality of it. Exactly what bad info have I spread? I stated MY opinion. I choose for many reasons, including lack of the appropriate knowledge to keep my snakes separate. That does not make me mindless.


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Lol

[calmolly1]

As I said...wow! Talk about a stick in a hornets nest! Lol


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[Fireproof]

Even transporting snakes together can be done, not sure how many shows you have been working or even gone to but people vending pack their snakes together all the time, they display them together too, people shipping snake wholesale ship them in bag of 5 or 10 without any problems either.

There is one thing that was pointed out and everyone seems to fail to see even though that is the first thing that jumped at me in the picture.





Now let's focus on the real issue here

I've been to many shows, but never worked at any, nor sold at any. I wasn't meaning to take one stance or the other on the transport of many snakes. My point was that the above mishap happened while "transporting" not cohabitating. And the above argument about using this situation as "evidence" that cohabitation shouldn't be done could've been avoided.