I also have experience with the rat forum. I think they are a little high strung. I wanted to start out with good quality breeder rats, but like you, most breeders require a no breeding contract. I find this to be completely silly. I managed to find a friend who breeds feeder rats and picked up a few babies from her. One in particular I have hand raised and she is the sweetest baby (she is now a pet and will not be used for breeding or food ). The other ones I got at a later time and they are terrified of me. She didn't handle them for obvious reasons and I feel I'm at an obvious disadvantage now. I plan on breeding the females for a litter or two ( choosing a few females from their babies and hand raising them) and then use the mothers for snake food. I hope to use the babies for snake food, and then whatever is left over, sell for pets. I love rats and I love snakes. It's just a sad fact of life that snakes eat rats. My goal is create rat babies with good temperaments ( it really seems that the temperament isn't "passed down", it's how they are raised and handled). I also want the babies to have the best lives while they are with me. I wish you a ton of luck with breeding. Maybe post some pics of your rat babies when you can?