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    Feeding F/t rats doing something wrong HELP

    So I been feeding my snake ft for about 4 weeks now he which over with no problem at all, after he turned down a live rat due to he was about to shed so I waited till that was over and offer him f/t and he took with no problem I am having problem thawing it out tho these pass 3-4 weeks been crazy for me when it feeding time I'm still trying to get it right to thawing it out today I think I got it right far as the temp of the rat cause he took it right away but yet the tail broke off on me once he strike it and rap around the guts came out am I'm thawing out to long for this to happen or can it be just bad Quality rats !! I also had to use the thong to get the gut that was hanging off him cause he was rubbing his head on the floor trynna get it off and gave him a bath right after feeding cause rat guts was on him he safe and sound back in his tank relaxing now


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    You might be heating them too hot. Sometimes if you heat them too hot they "explode", but in those cases the organs are usually very hot. Like burn-potential hot.

    It also happens with rats/mice that are going kind of bad sometimes. Does it spell spoiled/rotting to you?

    How are you thawing your rodents?

    Honestly bathing him might have stressed him out more. Anyone else have input on that?

    Re-reading your post, it sounds like the rodent might be decaying.
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    Re: Feeding F/t rats doing something wrong HELP

    The rodents I only had for about 3-4 weeks I brought a 1 pack of 20 they in the freezer my freezer was acting up this morning they was cold and alil frozen but wasn't frozen frozen so I moved them into a different freezer and I thaw it out by leaving it out over not in the little portion zip lock bag it's in then I put it in hot water for like 3-5 mins took it out dryer the rat and bang he took it and guts open up on him and he don't seem stress his behavior is normal and I always move him out the feeding box back into his tank soon he finish ratting been doing that since I had him and I owned him for 4 months now and he only 5 months old


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    Re: Feeding F/t rats doing something wrong HELP

    In most cases of "rodent explosion" the rodent is thawed too fast using water that is too hot.

    The best way to thaw rodents is either overnight in a fridge or during the day at room temps, once thawed you just warm it up with a hair dryer. In the second case it also serve the purpose of scenting which entice the animal to eat.

    Caution when thawing especially with larger prey, if done too fast the prey can be thawed on the outside while still froze in the inside which can lead to serious issues.
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    Re: Feeding F/t rats doing something wrong HELP

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    In most cases of "rodent explosion" the rodent is thawed too fast using water that is too hot.

    The best way to thaw rodents is either overnight in a fridge or during the day at room temps, once thawed you just warm it up with a hair dryer. In the second case it also serve the purpose of scenting which entice the animal to eat.

    Caution when thawing especially with larger prey, if done too fast the prey can be thawed on the outside while still froze in the inside which can lead to serious issues.
    So is leaving the rodent in on the table overnight till the next day till like 5-6pm is that too long of having it sit out I doubt that the inside is still frozen and when I put it in hot water it's only in there for 3-5 mins no longer is that is too long of being in the water and I tryed the hair dryer but I haven't had any luck with it so I stop trynna use it cause he was striking at it when I used the hair dryer what are a few sighs that I can look at the frozen rodent and tell it's bad like is there any color different or anything I should look for that would tell me it's bad only time I smell the rodent is when it wet that's all other then that I don't smell anything that's bad smelling


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    Re: Feeding F/t rats doing something wrong HELP

    Quote Originally Posted by Damondpeppers View Post
    So is leaving the rodent in on the table overnight till the next day till like 5-6pm is that too long of having it sit out I doubt that the inside is still frozen and when I put it in hot water it's only in there for 3-5 mins no longer is that is too long of being in the water and I tryed the hair dryer but I haven't had any luck with it so I stop trynna use it cause he was striking at it when I used the hair dryer what are a few sighs that I can look at the frozen rodent and tell it's bad like is there any color different or anything I should look for that would tell me it's bad only time I smell the rodent is when it wet that's all other then that I don't smell anything that's bad smelling


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    Either overnight in the fridge or same day during the day a few hours before feeding.
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    Re: Feeding F/t rats doing something wrong HELP

    Ok so don't leave out in room temp then Imma try leaving it out the morning of feeding day then and see how that works for me today I finally got him to strike within seconds of it being shown to him the other 3 times it took him like 20 to 30 mins to strike at the prey


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    Re: Feeding F/t rats doing something wrong HELP

    Quote Originally Posted by Damondpeppers View Post
    Ok so don't leave out in room temp then Imma try leaving it out the morning of feeding day then and see how that works for me today I finally got him to strike within seconds of it being shown to him the other 3 times it took him like 20 to 30 mins to strike at the prey


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    Leave it either in the fridge overnight or at room temp a few hours before feedinf.
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    Re: Feeding F/t rats doing something wrong HELP

    Ok


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    Re: Feeding F/t rats doing something wrong HELP

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    Leave it either in the fridge overnight or at room temp a few hours before feedinf.
    Notice the word few. Leaving it out all day is not a good idea.

    I thaw and warm with tap water and have never had an issue. Every once and a while a feeder will pop but my snakes have always still eaten them. It all goes to the same place.

    Search the forum about feeding in a second enclosure. Its not needed and usually more hassle than good. Research and decide for yourself.
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