Is this a het red pastel?

[Mr.Spence]

According to what you said the parents are.......... There is no het red in that mix.
Pastel yes but het red no.
Who was the breeder?

I believe some people just label like looking animals as gargoyle. Isn't the onyx black pastel x het. red and essentially the same in appearance. I believe cinnie x het red, and cinnie x green pastel all produce a "gargoyle" type animal.