Question about Spider Ball Pythons

[JMBall's]

I love the spider look but I won't ever work with them. It's like purposefully giving your kids a known disease. Some show little to no wobble but why chance it in their offspring. If was a reputable breeder I don't think a bad wobble snake should ever be sold. So what do you do with the bad cases? I'd rather just stay away

[JMBall's]

*if I was a reputable*

[zachbinger]

Even bad cases can be bred its not something that can be selectively bred out you can get some with almost none to some with horrible wobble in the same clutch. Its not something to be feared its like a learning disability it dont make them any less valuable as breeders at all. Like 6-7 yrs ago ppl were euthanizing ones with bad wobble till they finally realized that it really doesn't effect their quality of life. So dont fear the wobble learn to love it and then enjoy the occasional show you get when they go duh on you.

[bcr229]

My spinner girl doesn't wobble much and the spider gene certainly doesn't cause her issues with eating or living a normal life. She just likes to view the world differently from my other snakes.

[Jessimica]

I'm glad I found this thread. I was planning to buy a spider but after seeing videos it seems almost cruel that they are bred with that gene. Of course that is my own opinion and I am happy for those that own spiders. But I think I'll pick a different morph.

[Sirensong26]

My spinner girl doesn't wobble much and the spider gene certainly doesn't cause her issues with eating or living a normal life. She just likes to view the world differently from my other snakes.

Off topic but...Those pictures of your spinner are adorable.

[Solarsoldier001]

My spider I have at least I can't see a wobble. So I guess she's a good case. My boyfriends bee I can only tell when he is feeding how bad his wobble is.




Here's a baby that Mr. Bee fathered.





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[Solarsoldier001]

My spinner girl doesn't wobble much and the spider gene certainly doesn't cause her issues with eating or living a normal life. She just likes to view the world differently from my other snakes.

She's adorable. Lol she's makes her bowl a bed. I love spinners!


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[Drake Moonslayer]

Spiders are some of the funniest snakes out there. The wobble can be as minor as a tilt to the head or as major as a the corkscrewing. Either way they are not any harder or easier to maintain than any other ball python. I have 2. My spider you barley notice anything with my sugar spider cruises around looking like she is drunk most of the time.

[Velrys]

I was told that if I incubate at a lower temperature around 86-87 it will reduce the wobble where you will never notice it. Is that true???

Only because the egg might not hatch and then you wouldnt be able to notice the wobble. heh.

The wobble isn't really a static thing though either, watching my friends spiders grown up I've seen it come and go. Maybe it has nothing to do with age just the animal on that day I saw them was better or worse but I don't think that how they act for a couple of minutes in your hands is going to be a good indicator of their wobble throughout their lives. Just know its a concern, if it does concern you, going into the deal.

As was already said my buddies eat just fine. So it doesn't seem to bother them all that much.