pastel not looking so pastellish.... will it affect offspring?

[mamaofporter]

I bought a pastel male who was in shed. I thought he would look more yellow when he was done his shed but he looks brownish on top and more yellow/orange toward the belly. How will this effect offspring?

[Productmur]

How old is he? All pastels seem to brown out with age to varying degrees.

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[mamaofporter]

He's just a hatchling. Maybe a few months. Pet store isn't getting back to me with a date of last fed let alone a hatch date. He's doing good. Ate once and struck at me once. Lol.

[Productmur]

Pictures help here. Buying from a pet store, it's always beneficial to get a second opinion on morph. Because often--not always, but often--pet stores have no clue when it comes to exotics. I can't blame them--I know things about snakes and rodents, but ask me something about birds, and I'm clueless.

At least he's eating! That's usually the biggest challenge.

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[mamaofporter]

Not sure how to add a pic??

[John1982]

I bought a pastel male who was in shed. I thought he would look more yellow when he was done his shed but he looks brownish on top and more yellow/orange toward the belly. How will this effect offspring?

For the most part, yes. Darker pastels tend to produce darker babies.

[Velrys]

There is so much variation in any animal and their offspring you cant breed for "high yellow" or "low pattern" in a single generation. In one generation temp fluctuation in incubation has more to do with the pattern and color of an animal that how yellow the mom was.

[MS2]

I have a pretty average Pastel female. Her clutches vary. I had a pair of pastaves and the female was and still is bright yellow, while the male is more creamy yellow. She will throw nice to ugly pastels all in the same clutch.

[angllady2]

I had a pastel male. Nothing special, really. Just a big ordinary looking browned out pastel. He did have nice blushing. Imagine my surprise when he threw some of the craziest, brightest, most faded pastel and double gene pastel babies. I kept his nicest pastel baby and his nicest pastave baby. The pastel male, though he started out crazy bright with a white head, has now mellowed to a deep yellowish orange, but he still has ridiculous blushing and I've very glad I kept him. I anticipate he'll make stunning babies. The pastave on the other hand, started out incredible and is now just absurd. He's so bright and faded, his sides are creamy yellow and his head is too, I still can't believe I actually produced a baby like him. He's more like a baby one of the big guys produce.

So, to make a really long, boring story shorter. You just never know with pastels. In my opinion, you should try to find the nicest example of any morph you can, and try to improve on it. Who is to say your pet shop snake can't produce some killer babies down the road.

Gale

[Velrys]

This is a thread on these forums that is a great example of just how varied babies can be.