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    Re: What are your opinions on hets?

    Because pieds are recessive. Unless that spider was het for pied, the only outcome would be normals or spiders with either of them being 100% guarantee to be carrying the gene for pieds


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    Re: What are your opinions on hets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solarsoldier001 View Post
    Because pieds are recessive. Unless that spider was het for pied, the only outcome would be normals or spiders with either of them being 100% guarantee to be carrying the gene for pieds


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    Thanks I hope o can come back and reference this when I need too...thanks for the info...you have a pic of a spider I think in clutch 2 wow I think she is gorgeous..pretty clutch..are you keeping them or ?..i am looking for spider maybe pied ..i dont know always looking.....anyway thanks for the input
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    if you want to play with "what happens when I breed X and Y" This site can be useful, and has a lot of pics:

    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

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    Re: What are your opinions on hets?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solarsoldier001 View Post
    Because pieds are recessive. Unless that spider was het for pied, the only outcome would be normals or spiders with either of them being 100% guarantee to be carrying the gene for pieds


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    Quote Originally Posted by yzguy View Post
    if you want to play with "what happens when I breed X and Y" This site can be useful, and has a lot of pics:

    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/
    Solarsoldier001does that mean it would or if they were spiders it would be a spider het for pied is that right?And if it was a normal it would be het for spider and piebald……I hope I got that right please tell me I got that right…

    Yzguy I really thought it my give me a picture I guess.. I appreciate it , but with my learning disability I really can’t wrap my mind around the het recessive…like I said I’m not trying to create anything . I just thought my two favorite morphs would look cool together….i went to the site this was the resultsGenetic Wizard 3.0 calculations by

    [url=http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/&male=83&female=91][img]http://www.worldofballpythons.com/gfx/logo.png[/img][/url]

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    Re: What are your opinions on hets?

    does that mean it would or if they were spiders it would be a spider het for pied is that right?And if it was a normal it would be het for spider and piebald……I hope I got that right please tell me I got that right…
    the first part is correct
    second part is wrong. normals will be het pied only, cannot be het spider because there is no het spider.....
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    I'm going to guess that the first thing that is confusing you is realizing the difference between how the spider gene acts and how the pied gene acts.

    the spider gene only requires one of the gene pair to have it, for you to see it in the animal. This means only one parent needs to have the gene in order to get spiders in the offspring (and you should get 50%)

    pied is recessive, which means that it requires BOTH of the gene pair to have the pied gene, in order to SEE that the animal is pied. Since the offspring get one gene from each parent, that means that both parents need to have the pied gene in order to have any chance of getting a visual pied animal offspring.

    but pied has another twist, if the animal only has one of the gene pairs as pied, that is het pied. you can't see it (there are arguments about markers, but we will not get into that), which means that this animal will contribute the pied gene to roughly half the offspring (and if the offspring also get the pied gene from the other parent, they will be visible pieds)

    not sure if this would help, but it is another explanation:
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...Basic-Genetics

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