Horrible way to handle. Opinions?

[John1982]

I think your concern is admirable and I would be worried too if I didn't think Brian cared so deeply for his animals. My main point was people bashing someone for something when they don't have all the information. Brian's love for animals seems completely sincere to me so when I saw the smaller monitor cage and not entirely adequate gator pool I didn't jump to conclusions. Then I read a few posts back and someone mentions something about the monitor being in a feeding cage and the gators soon to be upgraded? The reason screen cages are frowned upon is that it's much harder to provide proper humidity and thermal gradient in them. If you can pull it off though they are actually BETTER than sealed cages because they also offer good air exchange. I know them monitors in the wild ain't livin in stagnant petri dishes.

I'm not trying to justify poor standards at all. I'm simply trying to promote fair treatment and full understanding of a situation before grabbing the torches and pitchforks. I'll have to find the other videos folks are talking about cause I seldom watched snakebytes - wasn't a fan of the "bite me -lawls - bite me" stuff personally. I have started watching some since they change personnel though and enjoyed several episodes. You mentioned beardies and blueys I think? I see no reason why either couldn't be kept in tubs if of adequate size and tweaked right. It actually sounds like a much better idea than many of the setups I've seen over the years.

http://www.varanustalk.com/forum/sho...ht=Screen+Cage

http://www.savannahmonitor.co/

This is just a short post, people (the founder of the site) that I would consider well versed in monitor care (as I am no expert, and I have just delt with a big issue on incorrect husbandry with my tegu because I took advice from breeders, which is why I feel passionatly about this topic) have tried to approach him in the past with no luck, he has a lot of info on his site not just the forum, backed by a lot of data from vets, field research, etc. Again this is my main thing, people see a big name with improper husbandry and they think its ok.

I look at it this way, and I'm sure I will get bashed/flamed for this statement, but here it goes anyways...if we saw a "breeding facility" full of thousands of dogs that were in small cramped cages with the bare minimum stacked from wall to wall, but were fed and clean and healthy "looking" would it still not be a puppy mill? If we saw the same facility filled with cats would it not be an issue about the well being of the cats? For a community of people that love their reptiles why would we not promote the best husbandry and care possible? After all our reptile friends have longer life spans then most "domestic pets". You could even say on an extreme level, we put humans in small cells with lighting, a toilet, bed, and provide food and showers and they will live, will they be healthy, probably, will they thrive, not really...I know that is a big stretch but I am just curious why we think we have the ability to justify poor standards of care for certain animals and not others?