I know what you guys mean. At first I thought that it was another line of Hypo, and it may be, but it is not like the Hypo I am working with. I've gotten my Hypo animals from Adam Chesla and Outback Reptiles. I've produced Hypos, Pastel Hypos, Hypos het for Pied, and Pastel Hypos het for Pied, and this looks different from all of those. The color is different, and more importantly, the boldness or intensity of the black on the body is different. I'm going to take some pictures tonight, after work, to show this.