turns out it was just layers of stuck shed that did not want to come of lthe top layer was dead but the under was stil lalive it was esentaily abbout takign the dead stuff off ( yes that exposes the flesh and a tiney amount of bone i know it sounds cruel but i trust her ) then u let it a) dry up or b) it heals my ball is eating well i fed him right after he took the food so hopfully he will shed and heal up, should there be an infection a) use anti fungal or if it starts spreading up then it goes to amputation lets hope it wont get to that.
in any case its not dead it has a chance to re grow and i hope it will !