Holdbacks & Growing Your Collection

[Eric Alan]

I will hold back no more than ONE animal per clutch.

Ha! I'm picturing you repeating this in the mirror in the morning before checking on the incubator for new noses.

What would have happened if the odds smiled on you and you produced both a male and a female Hypo Black Pewter Mojave from that clutch?

[sho220]

Ha! I'm picturing you repeating this in the mirror in the morning before checking on the incubator for new noses.

What would have happened if the odds smiled on you and you produced both a male and a female Hypo Black Pewter Mojave from that clutch?

Rules are meant to be broken...

[Eric Alan]

First, let me clarify that I haven't actually done this yet. I've got eggs in the oven though!

Congrats!

I'm glad to see others that put as much thought into this silly little hobby as I do. I absolutely appreciate you taking your time to lay it all out there for me.

[bcr229]

Rules are meant to be broken...

I keep telling that to my husband.

[BumbleB]

Its cool seeing peoples opinions and methods on this, great thread.

Although im at least a year away from even having a male to breed I agree with this method below the most. Of course I know once I see a few really nice combos hatch out regardless of the sex iid be tempted to hold more then one back I can say that ill TRY to follow it. Seems like a good way of keeping everything in control and not being left with a huge increase of animals in one season or too many males since (if I stick to the plan) the fathers would be replaced with the sons.

I will hold back no more than ONE animal per clutch. Only way to keep things sane on my end.

Now, if it is a female, hooray more females.

But, if it is male, it needs to be one that I am comfortable replacing his father with. This keeps the number of males in check.

There well could be clutches down the road where I do not hit the right snake I am looking for, and hold back zero.

[Slowcountry Balls]

If you don't want to get overwhelmed, you have to stick to a plan. It is too easy to keep too many animals and either not be able to properly care for them, or to become less excited by your collection because of the work that it will entail. As you are growing your collection, set a number for how many snakes you can add that season, then, I would holdback females and any males that can replace their father, staying under that number. When you sell an adult, then you can keep more holdbacks?

[sho220]

If you don't want to get overwhelmed, you have to stick to a plan. It is too easy to keep too many animals and either not be able to properly care for them, or to become less excited by your collection because of the work that it will entail. As you are growing your collection, set a number for how many snakes you can add that season, then, I would holdback females and any males that can replace their father, staying under that number. When you sell an adult, then you can keep more holdbacks?

I've definitely sacrificed breeder size males and females to keep extra hatchlings. I think your point about keeping a collection to a reasonable size is important. If it becomes a burden, it's no longer fun...

[Hogosha]

Guys, what works for me is to keep pattern mutations in males, I.e. Sugars, leopards, spiders, pins, deserts, etc and my females are color mutations. I then plan my breeds 2 years in advance and pre-select my breeding sets.


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[CD CONSTRICTORS]

If you plan your pairings 2 years in advance, you will likely be behind the game.

I personally consider certain genes to be "female" genes...... Spider, Pinstripe, Pastel (unless you are talking a hot 3-4 gene super male with any of those genes). Just for example- I would never even holdback a hot 1.0 LemonBlast. Hot 1.0 KillerBlast- yes

We are looking to hit, and holdback a hot 1.0 Sugar FireFly. Besides that maybe a Banana Enchi as far as males go.

Females.... gonna have to be a hot double gene, or a spectacular example of a morph I could use, that eats like a hog out of the egg..... Enchi, Sugar, Fire. I'll probably sell every single gene female hatchling to get a few nice yearlings that will breed sooner. Waiting 2-3 years on a single gene female seems crazy to me personally.

Recessive projects not included here

[Eric Alan]

If you plan your pairings 2 years in advance, you will likely be behind the game.

I personally consider certain genes to be "female" genes...... Spider, Pinstripe, Pastel (unless you are talking a hot 3-4 gene super male with any of those genes). Just for example- I would never even holdback a hot 1.0 LemonBlast. Hot 1.0 KillerBlast- yes

We are looking to hit, and holdback a hot 1.0 Sugar FireFly. Besides that maybe a Banana Enchi as far as males go.

Females.... gonna have to be a hot double gene, or a spectacular example of a morph I could use, that eats like a hog out of the egg..... Enchi, Sugar, Fire. I'll probably sell every single gene female hatchling to get a few nice yearlings that will breed sooner. Waiting 2-3 years on a single gene female seems crazy to me personally.

Recessive projects not included here

It sounds very much like your thinking aligns with the way my head works. Also, based on your 13/14 season thread, you're on route to have a pretty dang good year to show for it. Remind me to look you up when it comes time for me to play matchmaker with my own collection!

PS - My Spinner Blast girl thanks you for the kind words about her "female genes". It's a good thing my Enchi and Sugar girls were asleep by the last sentence.