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Re: Dormant Genes
 Originally Posted by jdhutton2000
So this has spurred a LOT of research on my part.... So right now we separate genetics by very vauge and somewhat basic understanding... we are messing with mostly a couple alleles, but not dealing with the other alleles that might directly impact the others. For example, going human here cause I haven't crossed over to reptile yet...
You can have two humans with blue eyes make babies with blue eyes, however, if each parent or one parent carries dominant gene for melanin then the eyes will be blue with brownish tints possible leaving to a hazel or green. I am kinda interpreting this as the different pastels out there.
From my understanding there are multiple loci that determine eye color, so not that a gene is dormant, just other genes may visually show over it, depending on the combination of genes you get and how they are recessive, inc-dom, or dominant compared to each other. It is a poly-genetic trait, not a simple one like the morphs we are dealing with.
 Originally Posted by jdhutton2000
Then going to the spider wobble, the allele protein that causes the reduced pattern is similarly coded or bonded to the "wobble gene"
With that said, broken co-dom genes, which in turn are alleles capable of co exsisting visualy with dominant homozygous genes, CAN be passed with out displaying the trait.
Aka a broken Co-dom gene for pastel could be in a visual normal, but due to it being broken... it does not act as a co-dom, it is recessive... Mix back with another normal that MIGHT carry a broken co dom, could result in the co-dom trait being displayed in the offspring.
Is there any examples of this actually happening? I mean at this point would of even call it a broken gene rather than another allele? Seems like a long shot.
 Originally Posted by jdhutton2000
Guess the best example I can come up with is both my parents having brown eyes, and both families having full heads of hair back three generations, yet I have Hazel Eyes and my brother and I both have bald spots.
From what I have been told, both traits are poly-genetic, nothing to do with broken or dormant genes. A tail on a human is an example of a dormant gene. Switch it on, tail, leave it off, no tail.
 Originally Posted by jdhutton2000
I never understood how snakes could have retained sperm from a year ago, which kinda spurred this idea. But this is more a possibility, kinda like the paradox morphs.
I don't see the correlation here, I'd need that explained.
 Originally Posted by jdhutton2000
Don't bash too hard, seriously trying to answer my own questions and get thoughts from others who have more hands on experience of genetics and not just theoretical...
While I see it as very unlikely, lets just assume that model is what happened. The spiders produced would have two broken genes and when bred to a normal, would only essentially make het spiders, which would then require another het spider to even visually show in offspring. It would basically be acting like a different morph. Of course I have no hands on experience with genetics tho either....
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