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The color will likely change on the het Albino a bit post first shed. Also, I believe there is some pupil trick from telling Fire Champs from regular Champs. Mike Wilbanks posted something about the eyes being black and pupil being red similar to a Super Fire.
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Re: Who can help me find out what Combo are my new hatchlings.
I agree with you Eric , I must wait till they shed and grow a little.
I am also excited from this clutch.
Even if it is albino champagne....what is the Het?
Thats why I am really confused.
Last edited by Ioannis; 05-30-2014 at 12:50 PM.
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Re: Who can help me find out what Combo are my new hatchlings.
Definitely wait for them to all shed out and maybe have a few meals so they will at least have a bit more coloration. Also take some much better pictures, I can't tell what I'm looking at because the pics are too blurry. But congrats on this gorgeous clutch 😊haha whatever the little buggers are also I hope this doesn't come off as rude but did you buy the Albino & Champagne as an Albino yellow belly & Champagne yellow belly? Because if not there's no way the babies will come out with any Ivory in them. Is that what the breeder sold them to you as or are you just unsure of the genetics of them both? Because I personally can't tell if either of them have yellow belly in them since both if these genes are so diverse and the yb gene is pretty subtle in them both that they might have it & they might not. But if they were sold to you as such then that helps a lot. And I don't know if your albino has fire in it either I couldn't even find a picture of an Albino fire on the web or on World of BP. So sorry were of no help at the moment.
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Re: Who can help me find out what Combo are my new hatchlings.
 Originally Posted by AlexisFitzy
Definitely wait for them to all shed out and maybe have a few meals so they will at least have a bit more coloration. Also take some much better pictures, I can't tell what I'm looking at because the pics are too blurry. But congrats on this gorgeous clutch haha whatever the little buggers are  also I hope this doesn't come off as rude but did you buy the Albino & Champagne as an Albino yellow belly & Champagne yellow belly? Because if not there's no way the babies will come out with any Ivory in them. Is that what the breeder sold them to you as or are you just unsure of the genetics of them both? Because I personally can't tell if either of them have yellow belly in them since both if these genes are so diverse and the yb gene is pretty subtle in them both that they might have it & they might not. But if they were sold to you as such then that helps a lot. And I don't know if your albino has fire in it either I couldn't even find a picture of an Albino fire on the web or on World of BP. So sorry were of no help at the moment.
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Thanks for your reply.
I knew that I bought an albino 0.1 and a champagne 1.0
But as you see champagne is also het for albino(I didn't know about it)
I only suppose that it mignt have yellow belly...(cause the snakes contain white regeons)
The het albino has some weird markings that look like a champagne fire.
Here I have some more photos before.

I am also breeding the same Champagne male with a Fire female
Last edited by Ioannis; 05-30-2014 at 02:03 PM.
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Re: Who can help me find out what Combo are my new hatchlings.
I see albino champagnes, just lower contrast than the albino champagne with the white circles. Remember, both regular albinos and regular champagnes have high contrast and low contrast examples. Your hatchlings simply look lower contrast than the picture from wobp.
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Regular champagnes come in very clean versions and also versions with circles or other markings down the dorsal. Thus, albino champagnes will come in very clean versions and also versions with circles or other markings down the dorsal. Albino won't change the pattern, just the color. Since the albino parent has a very clean pattern, it makes sense that the offspring might have a cleaner pattern than the champagne parent. Although the one pic of the babies is too small and less than perfectly in focus (at least on my monitor) to be very certain about anything, I bet those 2 turn out to be "just" albino champagne.
The third baby is the one that interests me the most. It doesn't look like it is just a champagne, although I'm not 100% certain how many pre-shed champagne pics I've seen, so maybe they just look like that. I've not seen one in person.
Even if there is nothing else going on, what a nice surprise that your champagne was het albino!
Looking forward to seeing updates. I always love these mystery surprise type threads.
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Re: Who can help me find out what Combo are my new hatchlings.
Nice clutch!
I agree, wait till they shed then more pictures
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Re: Who can help me find out what Combo are my new hatchlings.
Thank you guys.
I have to wait till they shed and grow a little.
I will post updates with pictures.
I am also waiting eggs from 0.1 fire x Champagne 1.0 (Now I know it is het albino)
In this way I will see ,if the father has anything else going on .
I am thinking to keep those snakes , and I will try to prove what genes they really have.
I also believe that the het albino champagne is something more.
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