Would you do this trade?

[Tat2Guy]

I was offered a 1.0 mojave het albino and 175$ for my Pastel 100% het pied.. The Mojave is about 1300g where as my Pastel is 171... just wanted opinions before I consider this... The thoughts of pastel pieds really makes me consider not doing it.

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[CORBIN911]

Well there is NO CLEAR way to say 100% het pied, specially if not proven out, But both Mojave/Pastels are nice, its your choice, You always could pick up a Female Butter/Lesser and make some Blue eyed Lucys

[Tat2Guy]

The pastel 100% het pied came from a pastel X pied pairing. My 2 normals that are 100%het pied are from a normal X pied. So unless I got a completely rare fluke then all 3 of my snakes are indeed 100% het for pied

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[Tat2Guy]

A pastel X pied will give you 50% normals 100% het pied and 50% pastels 100% het pied

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[Tat2Guy]

The only time it becomes a guessing game is when u breed a het to a non het. A normal het pied to a normal will give me 50% NORMAL and 50% Normal het pied. The whole clutch would then be Normal 50% het pied. I would sell those as just normals

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[Pythonfriend]

based on your signature i would say no. you dont have a visual pied yet. you dont have anything with albino so far, no visual albino, no hets. so i would hold on to all the het pied stuff until you have visual pieds.

when you cannot use the 100% het albino part of the equation, when its basically just a single-gene male mojave, then the male wont really get you anywhere. what if you pair your het pieds and manage to hatch a male visual pied? it would be ready around the time when the pastel het pied is ready.

and what female would you breed your mojave het albino to? the het pied or the het hypo? for mojaves that are 50% possible het this and 50% possible het that? i see no plan. but its easy to see that there is a good plan in place for the pastel het pied.

[Tat2Guy]

Well the end goal is a hypo mojave pied. But I see what you're saying. I could pair the male het pied to both the pastel and normal het pieds, then with those offspring I could afford a mojave het pied or hope for the pied and breed a mojave to em. By then I'll have a visual hypo female and can breed to get the hypo mijave. Ugh. I'm going to have to write it out. He'll I could get a mojave later down the road and shoot for pastave pieds...

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[Tat2Guy]

Okay. So all of my current inventory are sub 200g. the ghost and het ghost will breed this season. The reason I was looking at possibly doing this trade is then I would have the Mojave, which is ready to breed, and can take that 175 and use it towards the purchase of another snake that is ready to breed. That way I have 2 breeding pairs vs the 1. But I just seen several people selling the Pastel's Het Pieds for 350-500$, so I may just hold on to her.... And this is the snake I was haveing an issue sexing, he is aware of this too. I have yet to get a probe, but i am pretty confident its a female.

[Pythonfriend]

oh, so hypo mojave pied is the end goal, good to know.

i dont see why you would want a mojave (or a mojave het albino), ever. a mojave het pied or mojave het hypo would be much better. a mojave pied or mojave hypo would be perfect.

to make a hypo pied, the best way is to breed visual hypo to visual pied, so that you get 100% double hets, and then you bred double het to double het. thats quite obvious.

now you also want mojave in there. this is really hard when you start with just a mojave. different ways would be: you produce a visual double recessive hypo pied, breed it to a mojave, get a mojave 100% double het hypo pied, and breed that back to hypo pied. or you get a mojave pied (or mojave hypo), breed that to the other recessive, so that you can breed double het hypo pied to mojave double het hypo pied. or even mojave double het hypo pied to mojave double het hypo pied.
when you start with visual pied, visual hypo, and single-gene mojave, its going to take 4 generations minimum no matter what. even if you work in parallel on visual hypo pied and on visual hypo (or pied) + mojave, which both takes 2 generations, its still 2 more generations to get to mojave hypo pied.

when you have a mojave het pied (or mojave het hypo), you are down to 3 generations: pied to mojave het pied and pied to hypo, then mojave pied to hypo for double hets with mojave, then double het to double het with mojave. when you have a mojave pied (or mojave hypo), you are down to 2 generations. when you have a mojave double het hypo pied, and another double het (or even a visual hypo pied because you worked on that in parralel), the goal is within reach in 1 generation.

so a mojave does nothing to help you, it only ensures that you will need the maximum possible time, the full 4 generations, until you reach your goal. and what kind of ready to breed female do you want to get? unless its a visual hypo or a visual pied, its not going to help.

[Tat2Guy]

Not sure was just an idea. Been playing around with the combos I seen a beautiful pastel lesser but that won't help towards my goal. Maybe I can find a mojave double het.

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