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    Re: Clarifying pin x pin and spider x spider crosses

    guess I have a rep for being loud about this topic

    Quote Originally Posted by Krynn View Post
    Is there any examples that we know of where a dominant gene produces homozygotes?
    According to BHB, he had a pinstripe, that came from a pin x pin pairing, it looked like any other pinstripe. it in total produced 27 (if my memory is correct) offspring all pinstripe. It is the only breeding records I have heard from a pin that came from a pin x pin pairing. There are a couple people I know who have already produced possible super pins, I am hoping to produce some myself this year. It is repeated a lot that pin x pin is lethal combo, but between what I have personally heard from bhb and there not being one account of ANYTHING to even suggest it, I honestly have no idea how people came to that conclusion.

    According to greg g, there are a couple of super leopards, that look like any other leopard. I haven't seen any data on them though.

    According to vin russo, the original congo imported turned out to be homozygous, I'm not sure how many offspring he made, but since its the founding animal, I would assume quite a bit.

    According to ralph davis breeding records, he did a platty x platty pairing. Knowing daddy and lesser are allelic genes, we can safely assume there are only 3 possible phenotypes, BEL, platty, and super daddy. Well it wasn't a BEL or platty and looks like a daddy gene animal to me, you can be the judge of that though: clutch 76 http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/bi...thons_8_07.asp

    Now the super spider.... My political answer would be there is not enough public evidence to say what is going on with it.

    Now I will just leave this right here:http://www.reptileradio.net/ball-pyt...tml#post775644 However scattered evidence of lower than expected fertility and other claims that would never hold up in court or could be explained away in another way, and even a "You didn't hear this from me" makes my honest opinion that if it is figured out, that we will find the super spider is lethal. However my theory completely contradicts what a certain someone says, so that's where I will leave it. This subject has been more openly discussed on blbc quite a few times, here is a short thread from a month ago: http://www.reptileradio.net/ball-pyt...tml#post909402 if you really want to get into it, talk to asplundii, he is far more educated in the subject than I am.
    Last edited by OhhWatALoser; 04-25-2014 at 03:51 PM.

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