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    Re: HELP! A week into incubation and something is wrong...dimpling!

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    i dont think adding moss or something will help, because when the humidity is already at 99%, you wont be able to raise it more, no matter what you do. the whole bottom is full of water, its sealed, condensation is going on, and its at 99%, so i really think its saturated. at this point, attempts to increase humidty will instead increase condensation.


    i dont think there is much you can do. the setup seems fine as it is.

    i heared that some people try to re-fill the egg with medical isotonic saline solution (the stuff that can be added into the human blood stream). they put it in with a syringe and seal the hole with some kind of super glue. but you really need to find someone who has actually done it, im not sure about the details. it might do more harm than good.

    sometimes the solution is to keep the conditions as ideal as they are, and to do nothing.

    I definitely am not comfortable trying to inject any saline or anything like that, I feel like I would cause more harm than good for sure.

    I've added a second layer of diffuser to keep the eggs farther from the substrate. I have noticed a couple other wet spots on a couple other eggs. I am going to pick up some athletes foot powder to put on them to inhibit mold and help dry the spots. The collapsed egg did have a teeny amount of white fuzz on it this afternoon, smaller than the eraser on a pencil. All are still "soft", as in the eggs are malleable and shells will push in. I replaced the plastic wrap with press and seal and the only area that may not have a fantastic seal is where the probes are entering the box.

    Any other recommendations for "drying out" a wet spot on an egg? The wet spot on the collapsed egg hasn't grown, but I don't really want to give it a chance!
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    wow, athletes foot cures can be pretty agressive. some products are a combination of a really powerful fungicide, and a skin opener, that allows the fungicide to go deep into layers that would otherwise be pretty much sealed off. but i never heared of a powder, maybe that doesnt contain the skin opener. anyway, i would be careful, have others used it successfully for this purpose?


    strange question, i may be completely wrong. but could it be that the humidity is a bit too high? at close to 100% pretty much anything starts to mold, and in nature and in maternal incubation you dont get close to 100%, in nature its more like 70%-80%.
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    In my opinion you are over reacting a little bit. Your setup is identical to mine and as long as they still candle with veins, I would leave them alone.
    I do use two layers of diffuser, no eggs touch the tub, P&S on top with the lid. There is always condensation on the side of the tubs and some times it drops on eggs.....no harm.

    In the early years if we didn't use P&S sometimes they cave. Some rehydrate and some don't.
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    Re: HELP! A week into incubation and something is wrong...dimpling!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wapadi View Post
    In my opinion you are over reacting a little bit. Your setup is identical to mine and as long as they still candle with veins, I would leave them alone.
    I do use two layers of diffuser, no eggs touch the tub, P&S on top with the lid. There is always condensation on the side of the tubs and some times it drops on eggs.....no harm.

    In the early years if we didn't use P&S sometimes they cave. Some rehydrate and some don't.
    Good to know. I have just read a lot saying that the water on eggs needs to be stopped and kept from molding, and it seems like the powder is a pretty common thing people are using on a variety of eggs to stop it.
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    Re: HELP! A week into incubation and something is wrong...dimpling!

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    I started using two layers of grating after losing a whole clutch due to water touching the bottom of the eggs - I did try using the athletes foot powder but I had left it too late.

    I really wouldn't worry too much about the dimpling as I have also had some eggs that were almost flat hatch just fine.

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    If you think the eggs are dehydrating here's how to get them to plump up a bit.

    Method 1, Take a damp (not wet) sheet of paper towel and place to over the clutch. Let sit over night.

    Method 2, place a bowl over the eggs, this will keep the humidity close to the eggs.

    Had my first clutch dimple badly 2 weeks in, I did method 1 to hydrate then method 2 to avoid it happening again.
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    Re: HELP! A week into incubation and something is wrong...dimpling!

    I had dimpling on most of my eggs if the temps are right and you keep the lid shut except for occasional candling you will be fine we tend to overreact especially on the first clutch. After a couple of clutches you will find that you relax more the eggs are more resilient than you think Ive had windows that freaked me out with mold and dimpling and haven't lost one egg. It will be ok relax and learn here.

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