I'm sorry you think I am coming off "snarky and close-minded". That certainly was not my intent, and I apologize for the emotionless words on a computer screen... unfortunately it can be hard to convey at ties. But in my opinion, it sounds as if you think you are the only person who has an issue with overeating.

What may work for me may not work for you. But I am not just talking out my ass the literature backs it up as well. But, the way I do weight loss is not how everyone does of course. As you've clearly mentioned.
I will agree to disagree with you on the cutting out of foods, and that's fine. We don't have to agree. I was just sharing my experience, as you have yours.

Keep in mind that this open-mindedness you are talking about goes both ways.

But I'm out of this thread.

Cheers.