Persistent nose whistle issue :/

[kikkimea]

We have a 2008 Black Pastel male from BHB that has a nose issue. He's had it for a few months now and he just shed a second time since the issue appeared.
Its a high pitch noise that sounds like a faint whistle.
We read that it might be a piece of shed skin stuck in his nose, that the next shed might fix it, but it's been two sheds now and it's still there!

Help please, does anyone have tips or have had similar issues?
He's otherwise perfectly healthy and has been breeding like a pro, so no R.I (trust me, I'm a pro in that area by now )

Any enlightenment is truly appreciated.

[George1994]

Does it happen with every breath or only occasionally?

[MayerReptiles]

I had something like this happen before with one of my pythons when a piece of skin became stuck in her nose. I put her in a large clear plastic storage container with warm damp paper towels and let her sit in there for about 15 to 20 minutes for ensure the dry skin in her nostril had become wet enough for removal. I used a children's oral medical syringe shown in this link (http://www.undefeateddaddy.com/wp-co...ringe-oral.jpg) that I carefully placed over her nostril and pulled the syringe tab very carefully till I saw the flap of shed stuck in her nostril come out (forewarning with doing this, they will squirm a ton and you need to be extra careful when pulling on the syringe and not to cause any damage). After that I used a pair of regular tweezers and gently pulled the skin away from the nostril, and POOF! Both the leftover skin and constant whistle were gone. I'm not saying this is a sure fire way to remove it, but I've found it's worked for me the best with shed skin the nostrils situation. Hope this may have helped!

[kikkimea]

Does it happen with every breath or only occasionally?

More often than not.

[kikkimea]

I had something like this happen before with one of my pythons when a piece of skin became stuck in her nose. I put her in a large clear plastic storage container with warm damp paper towels and let her sit in there for about 15 to 20 minutes for ensure the dry skin in her nostril had become wet enough for removal. I used a children's oral medical syringe shown in this link that I carefully placed over her nostril and pulled the syringe tab very carefully till I saw the flap of shed stuck in her nostril come out (forewarning with doing this, they will squirm a ton and you need to be extra careful when pulling on the syringe and not to cause any damage). After that I used a pair of regular tweezers and gently pulled the skin away from the nostril, and POOF! Both the leftover skin and constant whistle were gone. I'm not saying this is a sure fire way to remove it, but I've found it's worked for me the best with shed skin the nostrils situation. Hope this may have helped!

Thanks, we'll try that!

[Inarikins]

Black Pastels (and cinnamon pastels) seem to have a slight disposition to whistling when they breathe, usually thought to be related to the fact that supers sometimes end up with a duckbill. My black pewter sometimes whistles while my black pastel doesn't. Their faces look the same with no visible indication of anything resembling a duckbill. Typically if it's been happening over the course of several sheds I'm more likely to think that it's a physiological issue instead of a problem with a shed. I've never had the urge to go after my black pewter to see if there's shed stuck in her nose because it doesn't affect her any, she eats just fine and I don't really want to stress her out into not eating.

[kikkimea]

Black Pastels (and cinnamon pastels) seem to have a slight disposition to whistling when they breathe, usually thought to be related to the fact that supers sometimes end up with a duckbill. My black pewter sometimes whistles while my black pastel doesn't. Their faces look the same with no visible indication of anything resembling a duckbill. Typically if it's been happening over the course of several sheds I'm more likely to think that it's a physiological issue instead of a problem with a shed. I've never had the urge to go after my black pewter to see if there's shed stuck in her nose because it doesn't affect her any, she eats just fine and I don't really want to stress her out into not eating.

I agree, it doesn't seem to bother him at all and it doesn't really bother us. It's just that we're going to sell him and I know what the buyer will think of that sound..
We have to disclose a thing like that obviously, so it may be a hard sell with a whistling snake..

[bcr229]

Black Pastels (and cinnamon pastels) seem to have a slight disposition to whistling when they breathe, usually thought to be related to the fact that supers sometimes end up with a duckbill. My black pewter sometimes whistles while my black pastel doesn't. Their faces look the same with no visible indication of anything resembling a duckbill. Typically if it's been happening over the course of several sheds I'm more likely to think that it's a physiological issue instead of a problem with a shed. I've never had the urge to go after my black pewter to see if there's shed stuck in her nose because it doesn't affect her any, she eats just fine and I don't really want to stress her out into not eating.

Huh - I think you're on to something there. I have a female black pastel het hypo that "squeaks" faintly when she gets stressed. She won't do it when she's just hanging in her tub, but if you pull her out and she moves around a bit she starts. At first I thought it was mild RI and took her to the vet, nada. Considered stuck shed... but it's been going on six months. I know certain lines of black pastel are more prevalent for duck billing and kinking so it looks like if I breed her I shouldn't pair her with another black pastel or cinnamon sire.

[MrLang]

Yeah, it's associated with the morph. Please don't stick anything in your snake's nose - it's a very sensitive area and the snake will be just fine without any fussing or meddling.

[kikkimea]

Huh - I think you're on to something there. I have a female black pastel het hypo that "squeaks" faintly when she gets stressed. She won't do it when she's just hanging in her tub, but if you pull her out and she moves around a bit she starts. At first I thought it was mild RI and took her to the vet, nada. Considered stuck shed... but it's been going on six months. I know certain lines of black pastel are more prevalent for duck billing and kinking so it looks like if I breed her I shouldn't pair her with another black pastel or cinnamon sire.

Yeah, it's associated with the morph. Please don't stick anything in your snake's nose - it's a very sensitive area and the snake will be just fine without any fussing or meddling.

Ok, no sticking stuff in nose, check!
Thanks guys!