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    Registered User leylaraks's Avatar
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    Just a Pastel...or another color morph?

    Bear with me, I'm still trying to figure out how to insert pictures, lol!

    So, I got my first BP, Persephone, as a birthday present from my husband. He got her at a local pet store that sold her as just a normal BP (which now after having a REAL normal BP, I can see the difference). My vet was the first one to say something...she said Persephone is a pastel and that I was lucky getting her at a normal BP price. Figured the store got the wrong shipment from the breeder. So, awesome, I have a pastel!

    Then one of my students, who was a reptile enthusiast, made a comment about Persephone during a class where I was talking about snakes in belly dance. Said she was a yellow-leaf pastel and they go for around $1500. The problem is, I haven't found any record of a yellow-leaf pastel out there.

    I have no intentions of breeding her (at least not at this moment), but it's more of a curiosity thing at this point (and I don't want to sound like an idiot calling her something that doesn't exist). I find as I add on snakes and get more into BP ownership, I want to know as much as possible about my snakes. At present, I'm just calling her a pastel (as I trust my vet, plus she looks completely different than Kismet, my normal, and resembles pics of other pastels I've seen). But any opinions from the board would be appreciated.

    This is linking to my FB photos, so I hope it works: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater
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    1.1 - Normal BP - Kismet & Persephone (reduced pattern)
    0.1 - Hypo Butter Bee - Andromeda
    1.0 - Green Pastel - Loki
    0.1 - Black Pastel Harlequin - Harley
    1.0 - Citrus Pewter - Hansel
    0.1 - Sumatran Short Tailed Python - Eleanor Rigby
    0.1 - Borneo Short Tailed Python - Maharet
    1.0 - Blood Python - Castiel (on acquisition)
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    Looks like a very good looking normal to me. I could be wrong though.
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    Re: Just a Pastel...or another color morph?

    That is not even a pastel. Just a nice reduced pattern normal. The tapatalk app works great for pictures. Can you get one of its eyes? Also, I've never heard of a yellow leaf pastel, or any single gene pastel that goes for $1500...

    Here also, for pictures-
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=173889
    Last edited by DooLittle; 03-04-2014 at 05:55 PM.
    If nothing ever changed, there would be no butterflies.

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    OK, I'll check out tapatalk...

    Here's the best side-shot I have of her, I think! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

    She's a real bright pale yellow...definitely is a head-turner!

    Again, thanks for looking!
    Leyla

    1.1 - Normal BP - Kismet & Persephone (reduced pattern)
    0.1 - Hypo Butter Bee - Andromeda
    1.0 - Green Pastel - Loki
    0.1 - Black Pastel Harlequin - Harley
    1.0 - Citrus Pewter - Hansel
    0.1 - Sumatran Short Tailed Python - Eleanor Rigby
    0.1 - Borneo Short Tailed Python - Maharet
    1.0 - Blood Python - Castiel (on acquisition)
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    BPnet Royalty DooLittle's Avatar
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    Re: Just a Pastel...or another color morph?

    Still just a normal. A nice clean one though. There is a ton of variation in normals.
    If nothing ever changed, there would be no butterflies.

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    OK....good to know! Thanks!
    Leyla

    1.1 - Normal BP - Kismet & Persephone (reduced pattern)
    0.1 - Hypo Butter Bee - Andromeda
    1.0 - Green Pastel - Loki
    0.1 - Black Pastel Harlequin - Harley
    1.0 - Citrus Pewter - Hansel
    0.1 - Sumatran Short Tailed Python - Eleanor Rigby
    0.1 - Borneo Short Tailed Python - Maharet
    1.0 - Blood Python - Castiel (on acquisition)
    1.1 - Brazilian Rainbow Boas - Cupid and Khaleesi

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    Re: Just a Pastel...or another color morph?

    I say normal, but she is really pretty


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    Re: Just a Pastel...or another color morph?

    Pastels have green eyes and their pattern is pretty crazy, just for future reference I know those normals can get super tricky sometimes lol


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    Probably can't find any record of a Yellow-leaf Pastel because they simply don't exist!

    Definitely not a Pastel though, she's a normal but here's the thing with normals; they are highly variable. You will see a lot of shades of colours and a wide range of patterns in normals because their appearances are as unique as a fingerprint (you'll never see two BPs with the same exact pattern) but it doesn't always mean it's a morph.

    Pastels should be noticeably yellow or gold and have a decent amount of blushing on them (or not, mine doesn't have much) with green eyes, here's a picture of my male Pastel for reference.
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    0.1 2002 normal "Noodle", 1.0 2011 albino "Mosh", 0.1 2011 pinstripe "Pepper", 1.0 2009 lesser "Cato, 0.1 2010 spider "Phoebe", 1.0 2011 pastel 50% het. hypo "Toad", 0.1 2012 black pewter "Pomona", 0.1 2013 kingpin "Marvel", 0.0.7 lesserxspider eggs

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    0.1 2013 p. baroni "Hyacinth", 0.1 2013 CB g. oxycephala "Laurasia", 1.0 2013 T+ albino p. brongersmai "Reinhardt", 1.0 2012 CH g. oxycephala "Gondwana"

    The Dearly Departed
    0.1 2012-2013 hypo black pastel "Dexter"

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    Re: Just a Pastel...or another color morph?

    Pastels will also have a brown out line. Here is mine. You can see his blushing and brown outnline.

    If nothing ever changed, there would be no butterflies.

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