Great advice,will do thank you. I never came across the asf issue while researching but it makes total sense. I definitely don't want to run into that kind of problem. I have a nearby exotic pet store that provides live and I believe f/t mice and rats. Oh and btw... Are there any breeder reviews on this forum? I've looked but couldn't find the section , I'm also new so forgive me if it's in front of my face so to speak lol