Firearms

[Firemaniv]

I like that it can switch over to eject out the left side for those of us that are left handed, BUT it according to the manual the headspace has to unchecked with. A go-no go gauge which requires a trip back to IWI. A 9mm conversion kit is supposedly available that the end user can install and use.

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[Slim]

I like that it can switch over to eject out the left side for those of us that are left handed

That's a very sweet feature.

[Neal]

Bullpups are nice for CQB, but I would never use one for anything past say 50 yards. I've shot a P90 before, wonderful gun, but wasn't overly impressed with it.

[patientz3ro]

Bullpups are nice for CQB, but I would never use one for anything past say 50 yards. I've shot a P90 before, wonderful gun, but wasn't overly impressed with it.

Out of curiosity, why not? By definition, a bullpup shortens overall length without sacrificing barrel length, so range and accuracy wouldn't suffer in comparison to a traditional format with the same bolt/action/barrel specs. All you're doing is moving the trigger fwd of the action.

The P90 is an AWFUL example, though. Not that it's bad for what it is, but being a PDW, it's not going to perform at anywhere near what a bullpup rifle with a longer barrel can do.

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[PitOnTheProwl]

Not big on bullpups at all, lost most of my hearing in my left ear from a 10/22 conversion I did some 20 years ago. I was so hot to trot to shoot it that I was not thinking about anything else. Before I could let off the trigger I had 3 or 4 hot casings stuck in my ear. The ringing has never stopped either.

and Neal the only difference is no stock so the distance performance is the same as the original weapon for distance. Shooter comfort is the problem and lack of bipod for a steady rest.

[patientz3ro]

I don't particularly care for them myself. I can understand the logic for the militaries who have adopted them. If a soldier has to clear a building with a standard infantry weapon, then by all means, make that weapon as maneuverable as possible. Bullpup configurations do just that. The problem is that you're still firing a rifle round, and that means a higher risk of collateral damage. Whether it's due to budget constraints, or the need to keep weight down, it's a trade off.

Personally, if I were clearing a building and had the option to choose my weapon, I'm going with a H&K UMP45. There's a much lower risk of overpenetration, it's an extremely effective round, and being subsonic, there's no need to reduce the powder charge when using a suppressor.

Plus, I think bullpups are ugly as sin!


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[Neal]

Out of curiosity, why not? By definition, a bullpup shortens overall length without sacrificing barrel length, so range and accuracy wouldn't suffer in comparison to a traditional format with the same bolt/action/barrel specs. All you're doing is moving the trigger fwd of the action.

The P90 is an AWFUL example, though. Not that it's bad for what it is, but being a PDW, it's not going to perform at anywhere near what a bullpup rifle with a longer barrel can do.

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Probably just from the feel and maybe the odd look. I couldn't justify any reasons besides those two.

I'm not sure if all of them have horrible mag placement, but having the mag behind the trigger to me is an odd feeling, especially since I'm right handed. So having to go behind my right hand or use my right hand to change the mag would just feel awkward. I'm not saying I couldn't get used to it, just prefer not to. Also my biggest thing is if SHTF scenario, ar15 parts are way more common than bullpup.

A case in point in why I love my two Glocks. I love my FN Five-seveN as well, but if something breaks on it then I'm literally screwed.

[PitOnTheProwl]

Probably just from the feel and maybe the odd look. I couldn't justify any reasons besides those two.

I'm not sure if all of them have horrible mag placement, but having the mag behind the trigger to me is an odd feeling, especially since I'm right handed. So having to go behind my right hand or use my right hand to change the mag would just feel awkward. I'm not saying I couldn't get used to it, just prefer not to. Also my biggest thing is if SHTF scenario, ar15 parts are way more common than bullpup.

AK/AR/ 10/22----- What do you think they are made from? The weapon system is the same for the most part, the stock is the change. I am however talking about the conversions and not the dedicated factory builds.
You would still do mag changes with your left hand, you just unshoulder the weapon first.
I wont get on the block debate, I will leave this at to each his/her own............ EOTW I will keep my good old Ruger P89 or a 1911.

[patientz3ro]

:...EOTW I will keep my good old Ruger P89 or a 1911.

I'm with you on that one!





My girl's dad built this for me. It started as a Springfield Mil-Spec, but it's got XS Big Dot sights, an extended thumb safety, beavertail grip safety, adjustable match trigger, carry bevel treatment, and refinished in RoGuard over NP3. The feed ramp is mirror polished, rails are tightened, and the barrel was throated from the factory. Nothing was done in terms of accuracy, since it's already more accurate than me. The target in the picture was shot from the bench with the factory barrel, linkage, and bushing. The first 3 of 5 rounds all went through the same hole.

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[Neal]

AK/AR/ 10/22----- What do you think they are made from? The weapon system is the same for the most part, the stock is the change. I am however talking about the conversions and not the dedicated factory builds.
You would still do mag changes with your left hand, you just unshoulder the weapon first.
I wont get on the block debate, I will leave this at to each his/her own............ EOTW I will keep my good old Ruger P89 or a 1911.

The system is the same, but the parts aren't interchangeable. I couldn't take parts from a Steyr Aug and put them in my AR15. Bolts, bolt carriers are going to be different. That's what I meant by parts aren't interchangeable. I still prefer my magazine in front of my dominant hand so I never have to unshoulder my weapon to change a mag.

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