Thanks dude....the thing that jumped out at me about this King was the lack of orange....I know alot of people like bright orange in Grey Bands, and they are definitely nice-looking snakes in their own right, but I had never seen one with so little ornage (the only orange is the patch on the neck near the head).....I guess I was mesmerized by the simplicity of it, lol. I traded my pair of Pueblans for it to a good friend of mine so I achieved my goal of "downsizing" lol.