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    looking ......

    well ive decided to make the jump its not gonna happen today but will in the next couple of months
    im looking at either a albino jungle bci or a motley bci

    if anyone knows of any good breeders let me know ..
    what are the price of these guys I never dealt with boas b4
    does anyone have pics of them young and old would like to see how they change if they do .. cant see either morph changing much ...but who knows I never dealt with boas

    any idea on who is calmer male or female .. I tend to see all my male balls r a lot more easy to deal with then females ..just my opinion

    how much bigger do females get then males ?
    how fast do they grow in a year ?
    I plan I keeping him In a tub for the 1st year then buying some kind of ap cage for him ..

    is husbandry easier or harder then bps?

    thanks everyone
    1.1 het pied ,1.1 pastel,1. butter, .1 spider , .1 fire ph ghost , .1 pastave


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    Re: looking ......

    Quote Originally Posted by steve_r34 View Post
    well ive decided to make the jump its not gonna happen today but will in the next couple of months
    im looking at either a albino jungle bci or a motley bci

    if anyone knows of any good breeders let me know .. Listed a few below.
    what are the price of these guys I never dealt with boas b4 You're looking at around $200 for a nice motley with no other genetics at play or about $250-300 for a nice low-expression jungle. It'll be around $300 for an albino, and about $500-600 for an albino jungle (again, low-expression). If you find a wild-pattern jungle, those prices will easily double or even triple.
    does anyone have pics of them young and old would like to see how they change if they do .. cant see either morph changing much ...but who knows I never dealt with boas Got a couple of examples - again, see below.

    any idea on who is calmer male or female .. I tend to see all my male balls r a lot more easy to deal with then females ..just my opinion Totally depends on the snake. I have several females that are sweet as can be, but my males are pretty great too. My two most mellow and gentle boas, the first that I choose for educational events or for kids to handle, are females. However, I do have 4 animals that have, on occasion, wanted to eat my face. Those are 3 females and only one male.

    how much bigger do females get then males ? We're talking BCI so I'll stick with those size references. Males will max out around 6-7 feet and females will usually reach 7-8 feet as adults.
    how fast do they grow in a year ? Depends on the boa, the growth spurts it experiences, and how it's fed. Slow grown is healthier.
    I plan I keeping him In a tub for the 1st year then buying some kind of ap cage for him .. That's totally fine. I have 2 year olds that are still in tubs. An AP cage is an ideal choice. 4x2x2 is a minimum for a male. 5x2x2 is better for females.

    is husbandry easier or harder then bps? About the same. Personally, I think it's easier because feeding time is easy - boas almost always eat! But care requirements are about the same. I have found that my boas do seem to prefer slightly cooler temps than BPs. I keep a hotspot of 88 and ambient temps of 76-78.

    thanks everyone
    Check out these breeders....

    http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/
    http://gilbertboas.com/
    http://www.davinciboa.com/index2.php
    http://www.primareptilia.com/
    http://www.jimisnakes.com/

    A couple of my kids....

    Sunglow Arabesque


    Low-expression Jungle


    Full-stripe chain-link Cherry Pastel Jungle
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    Who that cherry is amazing ... how do the colors look as she grows ??

    And thank you very much for the info I will check on the breeders u posted
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    That chain link cherry!! I been thinking about getting a boa in the future also these balls really arent the best display snakes lol
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    Re: looking ......

    Quote Originally Posted by BumbleB View Post
    these balls really arent the best display snakes lol
    Ball Pythons are awesome display snakes...just pull them out of the tub and display them to all your friends
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    Re: looking ......

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Check out these breeders....

    http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/
    http://gilbertboas.com/
    http://www.davinciboa.com/index2.php
    http://www.primareptilia.com/
    http://www.jimisnakes.com/

    A couple of my kids....

    Sunglow Arabesque


    Low-expression Jungle


    Full-stripe chain-link Cherry Pastel Jungle
    LE Jungle is just beautiful! Love it!

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    I agree.. Great pics! I especially love the jungle and cherry... I'm also curious about the cherry... Will he/she loose the purplish background color as it grows?

    *sigh* I don't even have my first boa yet and I already want more.

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    Re: looking ......

    Quote Originally Posted by steve_r34 View Post
    Who that cherry is amazing ... how do the colors look as she grows ??

    And thank you very much for the info I will check on the breeders u posted
    Quote Originally Posted by artgecko View Post
    I agree.. Great pics! I especially love the jungle and cherry... I'm also curious about the cherry... Will he/she loose the purplish background color as it grows?

    *sigh* I don't even have my first boa yet and I already want more.
    Yeah, she'll loose that purple tone as she grows. The picture really picked up the lavender hues and she's far more pink than she looks in that picture. But at the moment, its the best one I have of her. As she grows, the pinks will continue to push through and she'll get more red. This is a picture of her father - he is a NORMAL cherry pastel - NOT a hypo!

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    Re: looking ......

    Quote Originally Posted by steve_r34 View Post
    well ive decided to make the jump its not gonna happen today but will in the next couple of months
    im looking at either a albino jungle bci or a motley bci

    if anyone knows of any good breeders let me know ..
    what are the price of these guys I never dealt with boas b4
    does anyone have pics of them young and old would like to see how they change if they do .. cant see either morph changing much ...but who knows I never dealt with boas

    any idea on who is calmer male or female .. I tend to see all my male balls r a lot more easy to deal with then females ..just my opinion

    how much bigger do females get then males ?
    how fast do they grow in a year ?
    I plan I keeping him In a tub for the 1st year then buying some kind of ap cage for him ..

    is husbandry easier or harder then bps?

    thanks everyone
    Topic was covered pretty well by the others. Husbandry is easy, you may want to buy some moss for humidity if needed, but Evenstar gave you good temps and you should look at a thermostat that can offer a night temp drop and a seasonal drop if your house temps don't change enough to change the cage temps.

    Male or female is fine. As stated, individuals vary in their temperaments. I only have one male and he's a swell fella. They can grow VERY fast in a year. You can feed them conservatively and still see a lot of growth. The BC feeding response is much different than the BP response in my experience. They always eat, at least 99% of the time. They stay "turned on" after a meal too,,, so,,, the bigger they get, the less you want to mess with them right before or even a day after feeding.

    Feed on the conservative side. No need for rapid growth, you can still get a nice sized snake if you feed properly. The longer they live, the more they grow. Captive boas, unless provided with it, get less exercise than wild boas, so let them feed, clear and actually hunt a bit before the next meal.

    You will want to start looking at cages soon, and have FUN doing it. There is nothing like a neat snake in a nice display cage.

    If you can do BP's boas will be no problem. Just be mindful of the feeding.
    Last edited by Gio; 02-13-2014 at 08:04 PM.

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    Kali- If all goes well with the new guy I'm getting and I end up wanting another boa, I may have to get the name of the breeder you got your cherry / hypo cherry from. They're both gorgeous and the fact that the colors actually seem to get better as they grow is awesome.

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