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    Please help. I think I really messed up with feeding frozen

    So my ball was on fuzzies and I was told to up. I got medium mice because the size looks good for him. Well I thawed it all morning and then put it in hot water. It felt thawed and so did the brain though the bag


    well ell I tried I feed him and he tried to eat it but couldn't get it down. I ended up having to take it away and I was curious so I squeezed he head and it felt cold so I was obviously wrong.

    I out out him back and he seems fine but what should I do? It was stupid of me but it was an accident and he didn't get it down so will he be fine? When should I try to feed him again?

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    Squeezed the head* of the mouse.

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    If its as simple as you not giving him a fully thawed mouse and he rejected it, your BP should be fine. You seem to know what you did wrong and will hopefully not repeat it. I suggest giving him a day or two to forget about it and try feeding him again. Of course, keep an eye on your buddy to see if he starts to act differently. You mentioned that he couldn't get it down meaning it was in his mouth. The only concern I would have is he may have lost a tooth while trying to spit it out. Not a huge deal at all but if he starts to act differently like constantly opening and closing his mouth or refuses to eat, you may want to investigate that.. Good luck..
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    Re: Please help. I think I really messed up with feeding frozen

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarzan152 View Post
    If its as simple as you not giving him a fully thawed mouse and he rejected it, your BP should be fine. You seem to know what you did wrong and will hopefully not repeat it. I suggest giving him a day or two to forget about it and try feeding him again. Of course, keep an eye on your buddy to see if he starts to act differently. You mentioned that he couldn't get it down meaning it was in his mouth. The only concern I would have is he may have lost a tooth while trying to spit it out. Not a huge deal at all but if he starts to act differently like constantly opening and closing his mouth or refuses to eat, you may want to investigate that.. Good luck..
    Everything was thawed completely but the skull. It felt slightly hard but I thought it was just because the mouse was a medium mouse and not a fuzzies. Also when I squeezed it slightly it stared bleeding so i just thought that it was thawed and just hard bones.

    And yeah he he didn't get it down but he did tear it open and make a mess. He didn't swoops any part of the head though, I closely checked the mouse and it seems he just tore it.
    Thanks for the reply. I'll definitely keep an eye on him and stick to thawing overnight in the fridge.

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    oh, if the prey item rips open and causes a mess, then maybe you also overheated the surface. if the water is too hot, the skin gets partly cooked, and then it loses its stability. normally it should hold together.

    apart from that.... no problem, the snake refused a meal, nothing more happened.
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    Let me just make sure, you didn't pull it out of his mouth, correct? That's how I read it, but I'm probably wrong, since other people have responded as well.

    If it's simply the case of a blowout, they're usually caused by heating the prey too hot, too quickly.
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    Re: Please help. I think I really messed up with feeding frozen

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    Let me just make sure, you didn't pull it out of his mouth, correct? That's how I read it, but I'm probably wrong, since other people have responded as well.

    If it's simply the case of a blowout, they're usually caused by heating the prey too hot, too quickly.
    Oh no I didn't pull I out. He dropped it once and went after it again. He then was stuck in the ball he does before he swallows for a long time. I could tell he was having a hard time due to his previous movements and trying to adjust it. I took my tweezers and gently touched him and he dropped it. I made sure not to grab it from him. When he dropped it I picked it up with my tweezers and examined it.

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    Ok great, I read that and hoped it was just my cognitive skills, haha. Yeah, blowouts happen, and it's messy and sometimes stinky, but not life-ending.
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    Re: Please help. I think I really messed up with feeding frozen

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    Ok great, I read that and hoped it was just my cognitive skills, haha. Yeah, blowouts happen, and it's messy and sometimes stinky, but not life-ending.
    Good to know he will be alright. First snake anything that seems out of the ordinary makes me panic. Dealing with a smelling bad mess is fine with me as long as he's fine and at least I've learned from this scare.

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    Re: Please help. I think I really messed up with feeding frozen

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    Good to know he will be alright. First snake anything that seems out of the ordinary makes me panic. Dealing with a smelling bad mess is fine with me as long as he's fine and at least I've learned from this scare.
    I remember those days all too well, and it wasn't too long ago! Only about a year and a half, and not a lot surprises me about these guys anymore. They will always keep you guessing though!
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