Firearms

[olstyn]

Are you sure it's inhumane? I mean because I would think with your apparent knowledge that you've done all the tests.

Perhaps I should have said that the chance of it being inhumane is very high rather than that it's absolutely inhumane. That said, you're essentially picking linguistic nits in order to try to deflect the fact that I called you out on an inappropriate action after you declared yourself to be proud of it.

Also I know my laws, but thanks for throwing that out there.

Glad to hear that what you did was not illegal in your area. It *is* illegal in many places, however, so I felt it pertinent to mention in case you had put yourself in a compromising position by posting about it on a public forum or in case there were others reading about it who were not aware of the potential legal concerns should they attempt to duplicate your actions.

It can take out large game fine enough, when the shot is properly placed you'd be surprised at what it can do. Now yea people assume it's inhumane because it's a rimfire, but when the round first came out it wasn't illegal to use it. It wasn't until after people misplaced shots and had issues with not killing animals was it considered illegal.

At that rate, a regular 22 can be lethal if the shot is properly placed. While I wouldn't normally shoot with that caliber, I've seen what it can do, especially the Hornday V-max. Again, it wasn't my first choice but at the time it was all that was available.

I could argue lots of things are inhumane, but that doesn't make it so. If you shoot a deer with a .270 and it runs off because you missed the shot or something else happened, that's inhumane because the deer can still live depending on where you hit it. The issue you run into is people don't know how to properly shoot and they don't know how to track something if it runs off.

I never said you couldn't achieve a lethal shot with it. Just about any gun can be lethal with perfect shot placement. The reason that I say it's likely to be inhumane is that your margin for error is MUCH smaller with a 20-grain .17 caliber projectile than with a larger round like a .270 or a .308. Wind drift can be an issue with a bullet of that size, leading to less certainty in shot placement. Tiny bullets at high velocities are also a significant fragmentation risk, which leads to concerns about low penetration. I'm not saying it can't be done, but rather that it's a very poor idea, and that even in a scenario where it's legal to use, *I* personally wouldn't be willing to take the chance.