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Reminded why I breed feeders
Due to new additions and my females taking their dear sweet time getting pregnant again, I ran into a few weeks where no feeders were ready for snakes. My roommate grabbed a few "gourmet" frozen small rats from Petco. We thawed them in the bags and then dumped them into hot water and were immediately horrified. The water turned cloudy brown/red, fur was coming off in chunks, and the smell was like rotting fish. The rats looked thin, contorted, and sickly. Both packages looked like this and we immediately tossed them!
I decided not to test the rest of their stock and got live small rats from a trusted source. After witnessing what slimed out of those bags I'll never by frozen feeders again!
Ball pythons: 1.0 Pied, 0.1 Normal het Pied, 1.0 Spider, 0.1 Russo het Luc
Domestic cats: 0.1 Misty, 0.1 Tootsie, 0.1 Oreo
Hooded Striped rats: 1.0 General Tso, 1.0 Moo Goo, 0.1 Lo, 0.1 Chow
Dalmation Dumbo rats: 0.1 Sesame
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Re: Reminded why I breed feeders
Yuck! Sounds like they were frozen for too long as well.
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Ugh, that makes me happy that I only have one snake to take care of. Less food to deal with lol.
 Originally Posted by dkspftw
My ball pythons, so far as I can tell so far, are idiots. Lovable all the same, but not smart. In fact, my main moral dilemma as a BP keeper is the fact that we have to feed animals that are so smart (rats) to ones that are basically as dumb as logs.
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Re: Reminded why I breed feeders
I never liked buying Gourmet Rodent from the pet store. They were always gross.
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Re: Reminded why I breed feeders
Petcos rats and mice are disgusting. If you ever need to gry from a petstore again, use petsmarts frozen feeders, much much better
0.2 normal, 1.0 Butter, 1.1 Fire, 1.0 Pastel, 0.1 Spider, .1 Pastel Het Clown
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shadowsnakes (01-19-2014)
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Re: Reminded why I breed feeders
 Originally Posted by kylearmbar
Petcos rats and mice are disgusting. If you ever need to gry from a petstore again, use petsmarts frozen feeders, much much better
I'll keep that in mind. Hopefully they won't give me the stink eye. My local Petsmart doesn't sell reptiles or reptile supplies, and if you mention snakes the saff practically turn up their noses at you!
Ball pythons: 1.0 Pied, 0.1 Normal het Pied, 1.0 Spider, 0.1 Russo het Luc
Domestic cats: 0.1 Misty, 0.1 Tootsie, 0.1 Oreo
Hooded Striped rats: 1.0 General Tso, 1.0 Moo Goo, 0.1 Lo, 0.1 Chow
Dalmation Dumbo rats: 0.1 Sesame
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If I had to guess they weren't frozen for too long. Instead they were probably thawed out somewhere along the way and refrozen....possibly even multiple times. That would cause tissue damage to anything, even a steak.
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Re: Reminded why I breed feeders
Yeah that's what happens when you buy rats from petco or petsmart. If the rat doesn't explode my snakes won't even touch them. They may be extremely overpriced but it doesn't link to the quality at all.
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and then dumped them into hot water
This could also be bad news even for the freshest kept frozen feeders. if the water is hot enough it could easily degrade the skin and outside of the feeder.
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Re: Reminded why I breed feeders
 Originally Posted by BulkMice
This could also be bad news even for the freshest kept frozen feeders. if the water is hot enough it could easily degrade the skin and outside of the feeder.
This. I would say your thawing practices are at fault here and not the rat you bought. Plenty of threads go over the 'proper' way to thaw, but I think in general you will find you are going to have a bad time if you thaw directly in the water whether from this or from the body exploding on strike.
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