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    I need some advise on what my girl is

    I recently bought a lovely female but there has been some speculation that she may be more than we think and I have seen some pictures of others which could confirm this. I need someone who preferably works with the enchi gene to give me some advice as opinions are either side here!

    Firstly I shall put up some pictures of my girl and shall follow these with pictures of an enchi combination. Any advice would be great to clear this up!

    A picture first to show how bright she is as mine pale her out a lot!




    A picture to show her reduced pattern and blushing




    A bright head shot - this was bright white light so really dulls her colouring






    NOW - this is a picture of an enchi combination






    Now, I know this guy is brighter but I am wondering if you guys think there is a possibility that she has the enchi influence? The pairing she is from makes it a possibility as both parents had enchi.

    Let me know what you think, hopefully someone who works with the enchi gene can shed some light for me
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    Re: I need some advise on what my girl is

    What did you purchase her as? What do you think she might be?

    She is gorgeous, but I do not see any enchi influence in your girl.


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    The bottom picture is an enchi firefly and it has been suggested that she may be an enchi firefly also. I think she is just a very nice example of a firefly but quite a few people have suggested that they believe she is more due to her clean and very bright pattern.

    Pairing was enchi fire x enchi pastel

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    Re: I need some advise on what my girl is

    When pastel and enchi are present in a combo, the animal has a very distinct clover like headstamp. The enchi firefly you posted a picture of has the headstamp. Your girl is a great looking firefly though!

    Here is my firefly girl at 800 grams (older picture)



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    Could be any one of these combo's, Im leaning more towards Enchi Fire. But what do I know.
    Percent Fraction Morph
    6.25% 1/16 Normal
    12.5% 2/16 Enchi
    6.25% 1/16 Pastel
    12.5% 2/16 Enchi Pastel
    6.25% 1/16 Super Enchi
    6.25% 1/16 Pastel Super Enchi
    6.25% 1/16 Fire
    6.25% 1/16 Enchi Fire
    6.25% 1/16 Firefly
    6.25% 1/16 Enchi Firefly
    6.25% 1/16 Enchi Fire
    6.25% 1/16 Fire Super Enchi
    6.25% 1/16 Enchi Firefly
    6.25% 1/16 Firefly Super Enchi
    ~~~~~ROACH ~~~~~
    1.0 Normal
    1.1 Piebald
    1.0 Banana
    0.1 100% Het Piebald
    1.1 Het Lavender Albino
    1.0 Lesser
    0.1 Killer Bee
    0.1 Spider
    1.1 Pastel
    0.1 Butter Bee
    1.1 Mojave
    1.0 Black Pastel 100% Het Piebald
    1.0 Fire
    0.1 Pinstripe
    0.1 Lesser Bee
    0.1 Super Pastel
    0.1 Cinnamon


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    This is my issue, I know she is at least firefly but people are torn as whether she has the extra enchi element in her. I am not fussed either way as I think she's stunning whatever she is! One breeder is willing to put money she is an enchi firefly but I don't have the best photo's as I only got her a couple of days ago so she is settling. The photo's I have taken don't show how bright she is.

    The other fireflies I've seen don't have a pattern anything like hers, the breeder thinks her pattern is too clean and reduced to be just a firefly which causes the problem of properly I.Ding her!

    Picture 7 of the WOBP enchi firefly looks very similar to how she looks in person, but she has more blushing, which is what peaked my curiosity. Before it was pointed out to me I wouldn't have even thought she was anything but a firefly.
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    She is Beautiful!
    ~~~~~ROACH ~~~~~
    1.0 Normal
    1.1 Piebald
    1.0 Banana
    0.1 100% Het Piebald
    1.1 Het Lavender Albino
    1.0 Lesser
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    0.1 Butter Bee
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    1.0 Black Pastel 100% Het Piebald
    1.0 Fire
    0.1 Pinstripe
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    0.1 Super Pastel
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    Re: I need some advise on what my girl is

    I know many people who have enchi clutches where there normals and other morphs will have a strong enchi influence, especially when it's related to the pattern. A lot of the time, you sill see that reduced and banded pattern in the normals/non-enchi animals from those clutches.

    My friend Tiffany (she posts on here regularly) hatched out a few different clutches last season from enchi x normal and the only noticeable difference between the enchis and the normals was their coloration! It's very neat how the clutch mates can be influenced by the other genes.


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    So there is a possibility she has the influence in her pattern but not actually in her genetics? If that makes any sense?

    I am honestly not bothered either way, I was more interested in other people's opinions. I love her pattern and blushing no matter what she is

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    Re: I need some advise on what my girl is

    Quote Originally Posted by Naom9Anne View Post
    So there is a possibility she has the influence in her pattern but not actually in her genetics? If that makes any sense?

    I am honestly not bothered either way, I was more interested in other people's opinions. I love her pattern and blushing no matter what she is
    Exactly! She is a great looking girl


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