My bee keep on regurgitating the rat.

[thejenius77]

I would say that if he has been keeping snakes for 7 years, without a problem, then what he is doing is working & he just needs advice with the question asked. The Philippines is nothing like Florida, so comparing them is really a mute point.

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[FireStorm]

I am not comparing the Philippines to FL. But I think that assuming that his temps are fine because he lives in the Philippines is a big jump. I still think it is relevant to know what his temps are, since he has a problem. And the fact that he doesn't measure them (at least that I can tell, from the information he has provided) is concerning to me. The fact that he has been keeping snakes for 7 years tells us nothing about whether his temperatures are suitable for a ball python. For all we know, he has been keeping a different species with slightly different temperature requirements and this is his first Ball Python.

[thejenius77]

I am not comparing the Philippines to FL. But I think that assuming that his temps are fine because he lives in the Philippines is a big jump. I still think it is relevant to know what his temps are, since he has a problem. And the fact that he doesn't measure them (at least that I can tell, from the information he has provided) is concerning to me. The fact that he has been keeping snakes for 7 years tells us nothing about whether his temperatures are suitable for a ball python. For all we know, he has been keeping a different species with slightly different temperature requirements and this is his first Ball Python.

He said he's been taking care of Ball Pythons for 7 years. I don't know, to me, it appears as though what he has been doing, is working.

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[FireStorm]

I give up. If anybody else had an issue with regurgitation, we would ask about temperatures. I thought I gave a pretty good explanation of how temperatures that are slightly too low could cause a problem that takes a long time to show up. It is also the cool season in the Philippines, so perhaps the temps in his house are cooler now than normally, and that is part of the issue. We don't know, because we don't know what the temperatures are. I'm not trying to bash the guy, or telling him to rehome his snake, I'm just suggesting he verify his temperatures, as that would be a simple thing to either fix or rule out.

[200xth]

You can't assume the temp in the snake's enclosure is the same as the temp outdoors where the person lives. AC and heating make it nearly impossible to do so. If the AC is blasting and the snake's tub is 60F it doesn't matter if it's 85F outside the person's house.

[satomi325]

That's assuming this person has AC/climate control. And in my personal experience, a lot of places in south east Asia don't have AC. But who knows, maybe he does have it.

BPs and retics have pretty close temp requirements. The Philippines is pretty close to where retics are native to. So assuming, they have the same temps, then a BP should be fine, imo.

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[200xth]

That's assuming this person has AC/climate control.


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No. It's assuming that we don't know what the temp is in his enclosure. Being from the Phillipines doesn't magically make his temperatures automatically correct anymore than being in Canada automatically means your temps are too low.

There is nothing wrong with asking for the temps in his enclosure if he is asking for advice.

[satomi325]

You also have to understand that he might not have the same resources as the rest of us to measure/regulate heat any ways. Which is why he's been doing what he's been doing for the past couple years. And if it wasn't at least adequate, his snakes would be dead long ago.

Not that I know how this guy lives, but I have family in south east Asia, and they don't have reliable electricity, thermostats, or sources that we do in the US/CAN. So I'm taking that into consideration as well.

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[Expensive hobby]

We are having a global low temp year right now. Maybe his areas ambients were right on the cusp of being adequate before an now they are simply too low to facilitate proper digestion with his snake.


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[FireStorm]

I looked up the weather for Manila, the location the OP lists. Looking at the weather for the next 10 days there, the daytime highs range from 77-83. The lows range from 71-72. IMO, even if the OP doesn't have climate control, it is possible that the temps are on the cool side. The temps in our room range from 84-86 depending on the time of year and time of day. Based on the research I did before we switched to ambient heat only, I would not be comfortable with temperatures below 84F for extended periods without supplemental heat for the reasons I mentioned in my other post. I wish I could find the email from one of the vets we discussed the issue with, but I've tried and can't. It was several years ago, so I'm not sure I still have it.