Quote Originally Posted by Raven01 View Post
Yes, we are absolutely discussing 2 separate lines.
I have been using "MJ" to denote Markus Jayne Ball Pythons line. I have not personally seen anything other than photos of Jolliff myself but, from those photos that I have seen I do not doubt your position that these seem to really brown out.

So, you understand which snakes I am referring to check out this guys critters. I drool every time I see his booth, even more so since he's partnered up and is into boa's now too.
https://www.facebook.com/markusjayne.ballpythons

The Lightning Pied, Pastel Lightning Pied, and Butter Blade Clown are just unreal.
Oh phew, I thought I was losing my mind for a second when I saw the comments about them browning out. These were the MJ axanthics I was referring to in my previous post (about them being awesome), but since there aren't really that many available I went VPI. I stand by my previous assertation though, none of the lines (with very few exceptions) is particularly exciting as a single gene animal, but if you combine them with other codom genes wisely they can be stunning regardless of the line.