breeding plan question

[evilebe]

i am getting a 1.1 pair of clowns and was messing with the idea this morning of buying a big normal girl to breed my male clown to for some het clowns. that got me to thinking, would i see a bigger return breeding my male clown to my female clown and selling clowns or breeding my bumblebee to my female clown and producing pastels, spiders and possibly a bumble bee that are all het? i know there are a LOT of pastel het clowns out there right now... if he was an enchi i would do it just to have an enchi het clown. any knowledgable advice is welcome.

thanks,
cliff

[PitOnTheProwl]

Too many variables and don't take any of these the wrong way.
Who are you??? Unknown to the world so your "hets" will be harder for you to unload for anything over whatever the visual morphs price is. You see where I am going?
Next, don't count on eggs till you see the little white lumps of love. You never know if/when the girls will decide to take a season off.
I would pair clown to clown and bee to normal. IF everything goes all fairy-tail on you then you will get a clutch of clowns and a clutch with a bee or two in it.

[Crazymonkee]

I agree, unless you are looking for a long term project to hold back some of the hets for yourself for plans down the road, but as mentioned, the hets you try to sell may not go too quick.

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[Pythonfriend]

i think breeding a male visual clown to a normal female to make 100% hets (without any extra genes, just normal hets) is utterly pointless.

with your 1.1 clowns, you obviously should breed these two together for clutches of clowns. that means (unless you, for example, buy a male 100% het clown with awesome extra genes) the pairing for your female clown is pretty much set in stone. breeding a male bee to your female clown, which means producing pastel / spider / bees that are hets, is quite a waste when you have the option of producing a clutch of all visual clowns.

but since you can breed each male to several females, you can still do something with the male. Here good pairings would be to breed the male visual clown to females with extra genes, if you want to move these extra genes into visual clown down the road. Or breed him to females that are 100% het clown and have extra genes.

generally, hets are bad because they are not visual. people want snakes that look awesome, people dont really want snakes that could produce something awesome years later. producing visual recessives has priority. hets are tools to move new genes into a recessive project. and to do that, i would go the short road: buy 100% het clown females that have an extra gene you want to add, and breed your visual male to them.

im also no fan of het to het breeding, highest priority should go to clutches that are 100% clown, followed by clutches that are 50% clowns and 50% hets AND that can give you a clown with an extra gene you dont already have. Followed by clutches that produce 50% clowns and 50% hets without extra genes. Followed by breedings of visual clown to non clown, to make 100% hets with NEW extra genes you intend to move into the project. breedings of het to het, for only 25% visuals and 75% hets that are only possible hets are lowest priority, lower than all other options.

[evilebe]

Thanks for all of the advice.