You're not paying attention. Nobody here says dogs don't benefit from vegetables. Quite a lot of raw feeders follow the BARF (as opposed to PMR) that includes vegetables. But many here are telling you that dogs DO NOT NEED vegetables. You can eliminate veggies completely out of their diet and it will not harm them any. On the other hand, if you completely eliminate animals out of their diet, they will be unhealthy dogs. And even - if their diet consists mainly of plants more than animals, they will be unhealthy too. Yes, that's why Science Diet changed their formula to have meat as the first ingredient. No, that did not make them quality food. It's still a scummy food for many other reasons.
Yes, Americans have evolved to eat McDonalds and can extract nutrition and sustenance out of it. And your point is?
Sure, and nobody here... .NODOBDY... said your dogs are going to get sick on kibble. Everybody here is saying there are better kibble than Science Diet... or gasp!... Purina! (Yes, a vet tech just claimed in this here thread that Purina is just as good as Blue Buffalo).
AMEN. I have 2 English Bulldogs. I'm not sold on grain free. I'm on LOW CARBS. Or as low a carbs as possible. Grain Free food is useless if you're just swapping rice for white potato unless your dog is allergic to rice. But, grain free food is corn free so you have one good thing about grain free - GMO ingredient is highly unlikely.
And you don't even stop to wonder... not even a smidgen... why Panda bears sleep for most of the day? Or why they have a very hard time pro-creating?
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