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    Re: wrong snake, compensation?

    Quote Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    Wait, what about the snake you originally wanted?
    Well even if he's not the snake I asked for, a pastel is still a pastel, and I have no need for another, granted I could ask for the one I wanted and sell the one he sent, but its not worth the hassel.

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    Re: wrong snake, compensation?

    Quote Originally Posted by treeboa View Post
    I have to agree. What he did was fraud, bait and switch not just bad ethics, but illegal. No way you should have to pay a dime to this guy to be made whole let alone give him more business.
    I still plan on talking to him about a full refund, but I need to see if he is willing, otherwise I'll offer a good amount at least off, and I'll be making sure(pretty much holding his hand) through the whole process if it does come to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylearmbar View Post
    Well even if he's not the snake I asked for, a pastel is still a pastel, and I have no need for another, granted I could ask for the one I wanted and sell the one he sent, but its not worth the hassel.
    If he's a pet, then a pastel is a pastel. He'll make a great pet.

    However, if you intend to breed, a pastel is not just a pastel. Not all pastels are created equally.
    The pastel you wanted originally was a much better example of the morph than the one you received. When you breed, you want to breed the best representations of the morph. Breeding poor examples, just produces more poor examples and muddies up the already saturated gene pool. And in my opinion, he shouldn't be bred.

    This is just my $.02.
    Last edited by satomi325; 10-01-2013 at 05:02 PM.

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    I agree with satomi. With pastels quality can make a big difference in breeding.
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    Re: wrong snake, compensation?

    Quote Originally Posted by satomi325 View Post
    If he's a pet, then a pastel is a pastel. He'll make a great pet.

    However, if you intend to breed, a pastel is not just a pastel. Not all pastels are created equally.
    The pastel you wanted originally was a much better example of the morph than the one you received. When you breed, you want to breed the best representations of the morph. Breeding poor examples, just produces more poor examples and muddies up the already saturated gene pool. And in my opinion, he shouldn't be bred.

    This is just my $.02.
    Well said.
    And this person would never get another cent of my money. Who is to say you'll get the next snake you ask for? You gonna fly there and pick it up?

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    Re: wrong snake, compensation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazymonkee View Post
    Well said.
    And this person would never get another cent of my money. Who is to say you'll get the next snake you ask for? You gonna fly there and pick it up?

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    idk there seems to be a lot of ppl telling me the other way around as well, and no in the last case scenario if he won't do a full refund and only the money off another snake I will tell him to send me a picture verifying, have it seperated into its own bin with my name on it and so forth, but that is a last option.

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    You still can't guarantee he will do that only way to be sure is picking it up in person.

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    Last edited by Crazymonkee; 10-02-2013 at 01:41 AM.

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    Re: wrong snake, compensation?

    Quote Originally Posted by kylearmbar View Post
    idk there seems to be a lot of ppl telling me the other way around as well, and no in the last case scenario if he won't do a full refund and only the money off another snake I will tell him to send me a picture verifying, have it seperated into its own bin with my name on it and so forth, but that is a last option.
    If he won't honor you for a refund and paid return of the animal...I think it is time you post on the BOI...
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    What I would do in this situation if you don't have the knowledge/supplies to send the snake back would be to ask for a partial refund/full refund on the animal: amount based on what you feel would make this right with you. If you do have the know how to send it back I would call your bank/credit card company up and see if they can get the funds back to you based on not receiving what you paid for but you will probably need to send the "item" (the pastel) back to the seller.

    I would NOT settle for a credit towards another animal from this seller and I would NOT let this drop until the seller makes this right with you. If it never gets resolved to your liking I would post to Fauna's BOI (I have no doubts that people would agree that the seller is 100% in the wrong).
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    Re: wrong snake, compensation?

    Quote Originally Posted by kylearmbar View Post
    idk there seems to be a lot of ppl telling me the other way around as well, and no in the last case scenario if he won't do a full refund and only the money off another snake I will tell him to send me a picture verifying, have it seperated into its own bin with my name on it and so forth, but that is a last option.
    Sounds like it's becoming your job to make sure he does his job. There's way too many breeders available who will take care of you properly to be bothering with this.

    If the seller screws up, the seller should fix it. If he can't afford the shipping of a single snake to make things right, something is wrong.

    If he won't send you the animal you asked for, get a refund. If he won't refund try to charge it back.

    No matter how that turns out, write your review of him, then move on and buy from one of the many breeders who will take care of you properly. It shouldn't be your job to make sure he does his job correctly. Rewarding substandard service simply leads to more substandard service. There are tons of breeders who by now would have just shipped you the snake you requested at their cost, told you to keep the one they already sent you, and called it a day. Those are the people you need to find and do business with.

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