My new ivory and some questions

[exoticballs]

Heres my 2013 ivory
I have future breeding plans for this little girl. Im planning to make pumas and super stripes. My questions are how can i tell apart a spector from a normal and also a spark from a normal. What are the characteristic of both of them?

[Pythonfriend]

these are hard to identify.

except when you use super specter, or super spark, or highway, or puma to produce them. then they are easy to identify because of the odds of the clutch. its also relatively easy if you can see the whole clutch and, for example, some are spectors and some are not.

i would go for a reputable breeder for this. its not something you would want to pull out of craigslist.

[satomi325]

Pictures may be poor examples to compare them. But I've heard from people who breed them that they look very different from normals in person. Like a more subtle YB.

[Pythonfriend]

what i have seen and heared is that like with yellowbelly, its mostly seen near the belly. not as busy and random as in YB, but with black lines near the belly, railroad tracks, some randomness. and on its own, spark is, how can i say it, stronger than specter.

i guess its most easy for the breeder to identify since he/she has experience with the morph and has seen many clutches with it, and with just pictures, or with just one BP and no clutchmates and no parents to look at and compare to, it gets really hard and iffy.

[bcr229]

If super stripes are your goal then save up your cash while that little girl grows up for a year, and get a super specter male instead of a specter. That way there will be no question about the babies.

I do have a specter female from a breeder, and next to a normal she's obviously not a normal, but a lot of people would also call her a vanilla, fire, or even a normal without knowing her parentage if I posted a pic of her in bad lighting.

[Pythonfriend]

umm, specter to ivory results in 50% super stripe and 50% yellowbelly.

so, if there is an ivory in the pairing, thats enough to make it really easy to identify whats what.

super stripe to ivory is also very good, 50% super stripe 50% ivory.

it gets tricky when you for example do super stripe to yellowbelly, or specter to yellowbelly.

[exoticballs]

Thanks for all the input

1.1 mojave
1.1 pastel
0.1 pastel %100 het clown
1.0 butter bee
1.0 lesser
0.1 normal
0.1 spider
0.1 fire
1.0 pinstripe
1.0 albino

[Freakie_frog]

Sparks look like fires as babie's as for spectors I couldn't say don't have any of those.