Are you interested? Animal Plastics COMPLETE review

[Stewart_Reptiles]

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However, you'd avoid all negative comments if you wouldn't incite them.

But the image still stands, you suck.

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Yes people will stop arguing once they realize you troll when you can not back up your arguments.


I'll do it for you

Time to knock it off, take this as the first and final warning. Enough of the derailing, you have an issue with the OP, put him on ignore

[wilomn]

While it is...nice, I guess, that you, as a brand new snake keeper who has never put together a cage, unless one counts the tubs you currently use, which is not in and of itself a bad thing, many, including myself use them, are so very willing to publicly illustrate your experiences, generally all first time, the value of those, this one in particular, is relatively low.

There are many people who have purchased the unit you are offering to critique. This is evident by the fact that the company producing them has been in business for many years. Just because it's not on youtube doesn't mean no one knows about it. If you're over 14.

My heartfelt advice, since you asked, is to lay low for a while. Put a few together, get some experience. STOP SHOWING OFF, WHINING and PLAYING THE PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE VICTIM. I yelled it so you could hear it over your protestations of innocence. You're not and we all know it.

Look within and see what it is about you that makes you need so badly to be the center of attention that you act like a spoiled kid who has never had anyone tell him that there is a time to just shut your yap and try to learn from those that try to teach. You keep missing that and you have had more than ample opportunity in the last few days to have caught on, had you wanted to.

I'd place the value of your critique, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being just about worthless and 10 being stellar, at a solid 2. You don't know enough to know what you don't know. Whether or not you can assemble a precut plastic box is really not relevant to, well, almost anything. Box building is great if that's what you want to do, I've put many cages together myself as have multitudes of other keepers, but that's not as important as WHAT you do with the box and who you keep in it.

Do you see my points? If not, feel free to ignore me again, but you might want to read this one a couple of times and see if you can't glean anything positive from it.

[Marrissa]

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-With-Pictures!
This was all I needed to get how to have the radiant heat panels setup. The instructions that came with the cage were pretty simple. I had it put together in about 15/20 minutes, sealed it, and let it dry for a day, then put it to use.

[satomi325]

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-With-Pictures!
This was all I needed to get how to have the radiant heat panels setup. The instructions that came with the cage were pretty simple. I had it put together in about 15/20 minutes, sealed it, and let it dry for a day, then put it to use.

I love that thread!

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[BrandiR]

I'll watch your video. Link? Or something I can use to look it up.

[sunshinenorcas]

While it is...nice, I guess, that you, as a brand new snake keeper who has never put together a cage, unless one counts the tubs you currently use, which is not in and of itself a bad thing, many, including myself use them, are so very willing to publicly illustrate your experiences, generally all first time, the value of those, this one in particular, is relatively low.

There are many people who have purchased the unit you are offering to critique. This is evident by the fact that the company producing them has been in business for many years. Just because it's not on youtube doesn't mean no one knows about it. If you're over 14.

My heartfelt advice, since you asked, is to lay low for a while. Put a few together, get some experience. STOP SHOWING OFF, WHINING and PLAYING THE PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE VICTIM. I yelled it so you could hear it over your protestations of innocence. You're not and we all know it.

Look within and see what it is about you that makes you need so badly to be the center of attention that you act like a spoiled kid who has never had anyone tell him that there is a time to just shut your yap and try to learn from those that try to teach. You keep missing that and you have had more than ample opportunity in the last few days to have caught on, had you wanted to.

I'd place the value of your critique, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being just about worthless and 10 being stellar, at a solid 2. You don't know enough to know what you don't know. Whether or not you can assemble a precut plastic box is really not relevant to, well, almost anything. Box building is great if that's what you want to do, I've put many cages together myself as have multitudes of other keepers, but that's not as important as WHAT you do with the box and who you keep in it.

Do you see my points? If not, feel free to ignore me again, but you might want to read this one a couple of times and see if you can't glean anything positive from it.

To play Devils Advocate... yes, you have people who have been doing this a long time and know the ends and outs and up and downs of different cages and caging systems. I know that. I'm pretty sure he knows that.
But you also have people who DON'T and who recently got into reptiles. I did a lot of reading before I got my ball python and I didnt know about Animal Plastics until I saw them mentioned on a fauna thread. I know they are good, but I have no idea how one of them works or how it's put together or what the pros and cons are (or potential 'what did I just do' issues that invariably come up in assembly). In that regards, a tutorial/review like the one he's talking about would be useful. Is he the most qualified person to be making it? No, most likely not, but information is still a good thing especially if you are new and don't have connections to the reptile world where you could see it for yourself.

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[wilomn]

To play Devils Advocate... yes, you have people who have been doing this a long time and know the ends and outs and up and downs of different cages and caging systems. I know that. I'm pretty sure he knows that.
But you also have people who DON'T and who recently got into reptiles. I did a lot of reading before I got my ball python and I didnt know about Animal Plastics until I saw them mentioned on a fauna thread. I know they are good, but I have no idea how one of them works or how it's put together or what the pros and cons are (or potential 'what did I just do' issues that invariably come up in assembly). In that regards, a tutorial/review like the one he's talking about would be useful. Is he the most qualified person to be making it? No, most likely not, but information is still a good thing especially if you are new and don't have connections to the reptile world where you could see it for yourself.

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Let the new guy post away. Pay attention to whomever you please. But don't credit it for more than it's worth, which to me, on that 1 to 10 scale is a 2. It doesn't really matter how hard it is, if it is, for the OP, because he has zero experience. If it's easy, then he's par for the course.

All information has value, just as all coins have value. I'd much rather have a pocket full of silver dollars than a pocket full of pennies. Pick and choose with some care for the source, unless you like carrying heavy relatively valueless things.

I've got nothing against this kid, I just don't like the way he behaves. That I have experience with and basing my statements on my experience, he's not going to get much credence on his report. It's been done. It's been done well. It's not new, it's not innovative, it's just his first time. His first time is relevant to most readers in what way? He might make mistakes they could then avoid, but had the watched the video linked, they probably wouldn't.

Try not to make it more than it is, nor less to be fair. It's fine to document, but this kid, with his reputation so far, is not one anyone I know would look to for advice or recommendations. Not yet anyhow and if he messes this up, that reputation will only be solidified. If he's successful, it may mitigate a bit of his poor standing, but just laying low and learning without showing off would probably be more productive in the long run.

[B.O.S Reptiles]

While it is...nice, I guess, that you, as a brand new snake keeper who has never put together a cage, unless one counts the tubs you currently use, which is not in and of itself a bad thing, many, including myself use them, are so very willing to publicly illustrate your experiences, generally all first time, the value of those, this one in particular, is relatively low.

There are many people who have purchased the unit you are offering to critique. This is evident by the fact that the company producing them has been in business for many years. Just because it's not on youtube doesn't mean no one knows about it. If you're over 14.

My heartfelt advice, since you asked, is to lay low for a while. Put a few together, get some experience. STOP SHOWING OFF, WHINING and PLAYING THE PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE VICTIM. I yelled it so you could hear it over your protestations of innocence. You're not and we all know it.

Look within and see what it is about you that makes you need so badly to be the center of attention that you act like a spoiled kid who has never had anyone tell him that there is a time to just shut your yap and try to learn from those that try to teach. You keep missing that and you have had more than ample opportunity in the last few days to have caught on, had you wanted to.

I'd place the value of your critique, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being just about worthless and 10 being stellar, at a solid 2. You don't know enough to know what you don't know. Whether or not you can assemble a precut plastic box is really not relevant to, well, almost anything. Box building is great if that's what you want to do, I've put many cages together myself as have multitudes of other keepers, but that's not as important as WHAT you do with the box and who you keep in it.

Do you see my points? If not, feel free to ignore me again, but you might want to read this one a couple of times and see if you can't glean anything positive from it.

While I don't agree with your entire reply, I do see your point. I've been seeing a lot of people ask about those enclosures, and there's not a lot of visual detail available online.

[B.O.S Reptiles]

I'll watch your video. Link? Or something I can use to look it up.

Link will be up, once the cage gets here, and I do a little post production

[Shera]

I'm just impressed that you've managed to keep your cool this time

I'd watch your video if I was interested in one and wanted to know how it would be for a newbie to set up (since I'm inexperienced too).