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    They aren't as delicate as people want to put on them.
    Internal organs getting damaged? That's just not going to happen.
    Snakes regurge because of the fight or flight syndrome.
    If your snakes are so stressed out that they regurgitate you've either got wild caught snakes, or you need to address why such a docile creature is so freaked out that it needs to throw up to get away from you.
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    Re: Soo...is this really true?

    Quote Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    lots of rumors and not one bit of truth ...

    Ball pythons do not regurge because you handle them after they eat, unless it is already stressed out to begin with.
    I have handled snakes thousands of times after they eat, not a single regurge.
    That is old school dumb rumors still regurgitated throughout the hobby.

    Think about the snake that is 30 feet from it's den in the wild, takes down a prey item, them slithers back to it's den.
    In that 30 feet it's probably doing more movement than it ever would in your hands.
    It's a silly notion that handling after they eat causes issues, not one shred of evidence, just regurgitation in forums.
    Do they like to sit and digest afterwards? absolutely, and I usually allow them to.
    But this whole regurgitation thing, and the whole theory that you can hurt their insides because you handle them, HOGWASH.


    ok, ive hatched out tons of BPS and yes they can regurge from being handled! crawling across the ground is one thing, being picked up and moved with gravity having an effect on the stomach is way diff then what your talking about. if you think regurging doest have an effect on an animal think again! there stomach if full of a nasty acid, just like ours. puke up a huge meal an tell me your throat or chest isnt sore the next day?? IM GOING TO SAY THIS AGAIN. HATCHLING BALL PYTHONS INSIDES ARE VERY WEAK! unless they have eaten multiple times and shed you can hurt them. the hole in the stomach from the umbilicus can be pulled open, leading to infection and death! feeding one before their first shed can also lead to problems, like i said..there insides can come out their vent, imagine one with a hemorrhoid so to speak, (best way to describe it) soaking them in sugar water draws it up back inside the snake.

    your evidence comes from many who have had trial and error happen. its best to feed them and leave them alone for 48hrs if your so inclined an cannot wait 48 then atleast 24! NOW for an adult, feed them, pick them up, swing them around do what you want i guess? ive never had one regurge from being held, but they will and can due to stress.


    LONG STORY SHORT, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT! you asked for advice and myself along with others are saying the samething give them time to digest. would you want to eat a big meal and somebody pick u up? same as eating alot and riding a roller coaster!

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    smh, not going to happen.
    Say it again and capitalize your words all you want, It's not the truth.

    First off hatchlings shouldn't be handled much at all until they have shed and started eating, so you point about the umbilical cord is a non point.

    Last point, feed appropriate sized meals, nobody needs a huge meal in them ...
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    Re: Soo...is this really true?

    Quote Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    They aren't as delicate as people want to put on them.
    Internal organs getting damaged? That's just not going to happen.
    Snakes regurge because of the fight or flight syndrome.
    If your snakes are so stressed out that they regurgitate you've either got wild caught snakes, or you need to address why such a docile creature is so freaked out that it needs to throw up to get away from you.

    a bp being wildcaught has nothing to do with regurgitation. i have about a dozen wildcaughts that eat and breed fine every year. unless your a VET and can provide proof that it does no harm then thats hear say also. im going off what i have seen with my own 2 eyes!

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    Re: Soo...is this really true?

    Quote Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    smh, not going to happen.
    Say it again and capitalize your words all you want, It's not the truth.

    First off hatchlings shouldn't be handled much at all until they have shed and started eating, so you point about the umbilical cord is a non point.

    Last point, feed appropriate sized meals, nobody needs a huge meal in them ...
    so if what im sayin isnt the truth, then whats all this your saying?

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    i would say it depends on the individual animal. the male i used to have regurged a meal after 24 hours because i had to move him, so now i just pick the snake up gently and run my finger down its belly to feel for a bump, if theres still one i dont handle them, if not i take them out. i actually wait 4 days to handle because thats usually when they poop. ive had bps poop on me before so thats why i wait so long lol same with my burmese pythons, mainly because if they decide to go its difficult to get to something to put under them in time or run to the bathroom quick enough(cuz of their size)

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    Re: Soo...is this really true?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexiel03 View Post
    i would say it depends on the individual animal. the male i used to have regurged a meal after 24 hours because i had to move him, so now i just pick the snake up gently and run my finger down its belly to feel for a bump, if theres still one i dont handle them, if not i take them out. i actually wait 4 days to handle because thats usually when they poop. ive had bps poop on me before so thats why i wait so long lol same with my burmese pythons, mainly because if they decide to go its difficult to get to something to put under them in time or run to the bathroom quick enough(cuz of their size)
    lol, so wait so they don't poop on you... now there's an interesting take

    *hate's getting pooped on* I had a snake that seemed to enjoy it... I took this tactic

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    Re: Soo...is this really true?

    Quote Originally Posted by wienkeg View Post
    lol, so wait so they don't poop on you... now there's an interesting take

    *hate's getting pooped on* I had a snake that seemed to enjoy it... I took this tactic
    lol he seemed to like me out of anyone else who held him, cuz he always used to poop on my bf every time he held him xD also i was the only one who he let touch his head without pulling back. i wish i didnt have to sell him, he was my first bp ever, just a normal not a morph. ive also been pissed on by my female burm when she was about 9ft, apparently she couldnt wait like 2 more mins for me to put her back...that was not a good experience lol learned my lesson for sure

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    Re: Soo...is this really true?

    The only time I've seen snakes regurge after eating was due to extreme stress (a hissing, striking, extremely angry pine snake that doesn't get left alone to calm down, for example), or rough handling from an inexperienced keeper after a large meal. It really takes a lot to get a ball python to regurge, especially a baby, and regular, calm handling should not cause problems.

    I wouldn't necessarily hold my snakes sooner than a couple days after they've fed, personally, but I also feed larger meals less frequently, so they do have a lump for a couple days after eating. As others have stated, as long as you wait until the bulge is gone and they appear to be moving around on their own, you're probably just fine.

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    Re: Soo...is this really true?

    Quote Originally Posted by LLLReptile View Post
    It really takes a lot to get a ball python to regurge, especially a baby, and regular, calm handling should not cause problems.
    Absolutely, in fact I doubt you could make a baby ball python regurge if you tried to.
    If an adult regurgitates you best look at the prey you are feeding, or the husbandry you are providing.
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