without this forum I am pretty sure many of us would fail at breeding - I sure would .. my only point was that patience is mostly the answer when it comes to ball pythons - I myself used to worry about everything when I started out, it took me many years to realise that for instance me worrying will not make them shed any faster, or take a poop after 5 meals faster, or ovulate faster etc. .. but questons are always welcome, heck I have so many myself that I want answered some day I could probably write a book on it