Cobra

[sorraia]

The whole thing is that while yes this is an awesome community I myself have seen new members asking questions get bashed, and I mean seriously. When people ask questions that may of been asked before, I've seen people automatically reply: "Go use the search function".

Yup. This exact thing happened to me. I tried using the search function, but couldn't find the exact answer/detail I wanted. Tried doing a web search too, no success. So I posted a question to this forum. I got a half-answer and was told to "Use the search function." I tried stating I did, and asked for more detail. No answer. Other questions i've posted got very few answers, or if I needed to ask for more clarification or detail, got no further replies.

SO basically I learned, don't ask questions on this forum unless you are a long-time, well-respected, well-loved member and part of the "in crowd", or else you won't be taken seriously.

Great welcome to the forum.

Only reason I stuck around really is to see what *I* could offer (mostly in terms of rats, since I consider myself a beginner when it comes to snakes). But if *I* ever have another question or a problem, i don't think I could really ask it here.

[Mephibosheth1]

Yup. This exact thing happened to me. I tried using the search function, but couldn't find the exact answer/detail I wanted. Tried doing a web search too, no success. So I posted a question to this forum. I got a half-answer and was told to "Use the search function." I tried stating I did, and asked for more detail. No answer. Other questions i've posted got very few answers, or if I needed to ask for more clarification or detail, got no further replies.

SO basically I learned, don't ask questions on this forum unless you are a long-time, well-respected, well-loved member and part of the "in crowd", or else you won't be taken seriously.

Great welcome to the forum.

Only reason I stuck around really is to see what *I* could offer (mostly in terms of rats, since I consider myself a beginner when it comes to snakes). But if *I* ever have another question or a problem, i don't think I could really ask it here.

I'm sure some will say "This is just one person", but even if it is just one person, is this how we want others to feel about our wonderful community??

[wilomn]

If i wanted to feel important i'd try out for the police academy, not mall security with paul blart :p

Ach Michael, that wasn't really necessary now, was it?

I wanted to show a quote from a new user who PM'd me with their thoughts on the situation of our husbandry threads.






So, do people help?? yes. Do they help most people?? Yes. But in some instances people are forgotten, and I thought that if I got some people together we could make an organized attempt to make sure that this didn't happen as often.

People shouldn't feel this way about our forum....I just wanted to make sure fewer people did.

Based on the thoughts provided here, I think that our community isn't ready for a sub-group like this. It makes too many people feel left out, and is viewed as an attempt at mutiny by others. I think there is a way for COBRA to work, but I'll have to think about it for a while. I don't really want to start it seperate from this forum...I think this is one of the best herp forums out there, and really want to do my part at improving it.

It's the organizational group joining chain of command we're us and you're you thing that I think is jimmying the works. I, personally, don't really want you guys pointing out my contact info to newbs who need to know something I might know a lot about. If I choose to help, I'll have made the decision, not had it made for me by someone I may not even know. For all you know, the newb is someone I have either had dealings with or just don't want to deal with, so, kindly if you please, don't pass my name around. Were I on staff, that would be different, that's part of the job, but I'm a private citizen.

I think too that this community not being ready for a sub-group like cobra is wrong. I think this community inherently sees that what you propose to do is what they already have being done for them. Sure, it's not perfect and some do fall through the cracks, so what you're wanting to do is nice as well as necessary, from what you have told us, but again, why re-invent the wheel when you would be better off as a spoke strengthening the one we're already spinning on?

Seriously Dudes and Dudettes, be Spokes, the world needs more Spokes.

[zach_24_90]

I'm sure some will say "This is just one person", but even if it is just one person, is this how we want others to feel about our wonderful community??

Again... I ask the question that has been asked a few times before.. HOW are you going to stop it? Are you going to make the "perp" stand before your imaginary board that has no power? No your not. Your not ony not going to do anything but you can't do anything.

[sorraia]

I'm sure some will say "This is just one person", but even if it is just one person, is this how we want others to feel about our wonderful community??

I wish I was the only person, but I've seen it happen to other people throughout the forum too.

Another thing I've also seen... a big fuss made about "zombie threads". Someone raises a thread from the grave with what they think is a new question that wasn't answered, but instead of being given an answer, they are almost made fun of.

[wilomn]

Yup. This exact thing happened to me. I tried using the search function, but couldn't find the exact answer/detail I wanted. Tried doing a web search too, no success. So I posted a question to this forum. I got a half-answer and was told to "Use the search function." I tried stating I did, and asked for more detail. No answer. Other questions i've posted got very few answers, or if I needed to ask for more clarification or detail, got no further replies.

SO basically I learned, don't ask questions on this forum unless you are a long-time, well-respected, well-loved member and part of the "in crowd", or else you won't be taken seriously.

Great welcome to the forum.

Only reason I stuck around really is to see what *I* could offer (mostly in terms of rats, since I consider myself a beginner when it comes to snakes). But if *I* ever have another question or a problem, i don't think I could really ask it here.

This is unfortunate. However, I think you're only partly right. What seems like a long time on The Net, maybe a day or three, may not be so long in the real world where people live and work. Some, like me, work for ourselves and spend too much time online, others don't have that extravagance and so aren't here all that often. Members cycle in and out, active members slow down, get busy, just don't want to deal with it, a myriad of reasons, all good, all valid, but of no solace in your situation.

Some fall through the cracks. Sometimes more than once. Hence the need for some, not necessarily in an organized gang, er group, to keep an eye on newer members and see how they're being treated.

Every once in a while I sort of pick someone and sort of follow there posts just to see if help can be offered, or even needed. I suspect I am not alone in this. In fact, I suspect there are others who make this much more of a habit than I do.

If I, personally, see one of your posts go unanswered, as I have seen others go, I'll chime in and see if I can't at least help you figure out which mod to ask.

Nothing is perfect, but we can improve that which displeases us.

[Mephibosheth1]

I think that's just honest teasing

The ignoring of newer people is what I'm more concerned about.

I have a question in with the higher-ups on specific ways we can try and improve in this regard....I do see that there wouldn't be much our group could actually do, but still think our goal can be accomplished

I'll keep you posted with what I hear back

[Mephibosheth1]

hence the need for some, not necessarily in an organized gang, er group, to keep an eye on newer members and see how they're being treated.

this^^^^^

every once in a while i sort of pick someone and sort of follow there posts just to see if help can be offered, or even needed.

and this^^^^^^

[OhhWatALoser]

Based on the thoughts provided here, I think that our community isn't ready for a sub-group like this. It makes too many people feel left out, and is viewed as an attempt at mutiny by others.

Did I read a separate thread than you? The majority that are questioning it seem to think it is futile and asked for a explanation of why it is not.

[Mephibosheth1]

I attempted to explain my thoughts, but everyone feels we can do more good individually than separately. I see some of their rationale, but still feel that on the whole it is a fallacy. If you're still interested in this PM me...We can try and make a loose coalition rather that an "official" club lol