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08-25-2013, 06:04 PM
#101
I need to step in here.
On the one hand, you're making a "club" or whatever you want to call it, that does exactly what BP.net is here to do? If you want to be helpful, then just get out there and be helpful.
On the other hand, if you believe that your group can somehow be MORE helpful simply by being a group that works together, then maybe there is something to it.
There is no rule against such a group, although there IS a rule against soliciting monies for ANYthing without explicit permission from administrators, so that needs to stop right now.
It needs to be perfectly clear that this sort of group is not endorsed or encouraged by the BP.net administrators, but neither is it forbidden...so long as it operates within the rules/TOS of BP.net and does not become a chronic source of friction.
Last edited by JLC; 08-25-2013 at 06:05 PM.
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08-25-2013, 06:16 PM
#102
Sorry; Deborah mentioned something about trying to get the Platinum cost split between members of our group yesterday, so we thought it was OK.
And yes; my thought is that we can be more helpful by working together.
Is there anything else that needs to be adjusted to bring this more into line with the BP.net TOS??
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08-25-2013, 06:25 PM
#103
Re: Cobra
 Originally Posted by Mephibosheth1
Is there anything else that needs to be adjusted to bring this more into line with the BP.net TOS??
Not that I can think of right now, but we'll be watching...not because we WANT anything to go wrong, but because this is something new that has the potential to have either a positive OR a very negative influence on the site. We'll see.
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08-25-2013, 06:27 PM
#104
Re: Cobra
 Originally Posted by Mephibosheth1
Sorry; Deborah mentioned something about trying to get the Platinum cost split between members of our group yesterday, so we thought it was OK.
And yes; my thought is that we can be more helpful by working together.
Is there anything else that needs to be adjusted to bring this more into line with the BP.net TOS??
I did not say to use the forum for that, if you guys want to do this privately and have your own forum it's one thing using the forum is another.
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08-25-2013, 06:32 PM
#105
I usually don't like to ruffle feathers and try not to post personal opinion too often as it is often mistaken for staff opinion but here it goes
This is my personal opinion and personal opinion only as a member not a staff member.
It amazes me to see how much some people want to fit in just like if they were back in high school, wanted to be part of some cool kid click/club/group.
You are not creating anything new here with your concept, BP.net is a forum where people already seek advice and find people willing to help them.
So what would this group bring to the table that is not already there?
More combined advanced experience that people here do not provide?
Cool name?
Sugar coating vs truth even when people make mistakes?
Kumbaya camp experience?
No longer derailing threads? (Interestingly enough the same people suggesting this group have caused many derailment all across the board)
For those wanted to be active part of this group what is this about? Is it about being able to be part of the cool kids? Is it because you lack the confidence to offer advice alone and you need to have a group to back you up?
Why not be an individual and offer help to those that needs it? Do you need to be a group to do that? I sure know I don't.
Last edited by Stewart_Reptiles; 08-25-2013 at 08:07 PM.
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08-25-2013, 06:32 PM
#106
Sorry; I think we got a little too excited...
Its OK if we talk o each other in PMs about this though, right?? Again not trying to Break any rules, just want to make sure.
And we appreciate your keeping an ion us; we want to make sure we're not doing anything wrong.
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1.0 100% Het for Carmel Normal–Mycroft (P. regius)
1.2 Manx, Scottish Fold, Tabby–Mocha, Precious, Kitty-Beau (F. domesticus)
30.90 Breeder Mice (M. musculus)
"It will all be okay in the end. If it's not okay, its not the end"
–John Lennon//oo\\
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08-25-2013, 06:41 PM
#107
I know we have at least five members so far who are joining, not because they want to be popular, but because they see a Benefit to uniting together in their endeavor to help others out.
Maybe I'm wrong; maybe most of the people who join do just want to be popular. But only time will give us the answer.
CRYSTAL MEPH
1.0 100% Het for Carmel Normal–Mycroft (P. regius)
1.2 Manx, Scottish Fold, Tabby–Mocha, Precious, Kitty-Beau (F. domesticus)
30.90 Breeder Mice (M. musculus)
"It will all be okay in the end. If it's not okay, its not the end"
–John Lennon//oo\\
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08-25-2013, 06:51 PM
#108
Cobra
Just an extra $0.02, for those of you pooling for donations - Wouldn't that money be better spent donated to protect our rights as keepers (USARK, etc.)? Or at least matched for that cause? I know it took me way too long to become a contributing (paying) member of this site, but the debt I owe for the knowledge I have gained far outweighs a measly $50-75 a year. However, when money was too tight for even that, I still found a way to donate to USARK.
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08-25-2013, 07:15 PM
#109
I for one am NOT going to read through 11 pages of this unless my MOD position requires me to.
I do not see the point of creating a group within BP.Net?
This seems to be an attempt to create a clique within forum to try and have a majority rules.
Problem is it all is on BP.Net and still falls under the rules of the board.
I personally would think it would be better to pool all your monies and buy or launch your own forum.
Then you could make your own rules to play by?
Take it for what you all want but make sure you fall under the TOS of this site.
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08-25-2013, 07:17 PM
#110
Re: Cobra
 Originally Posted by Deborah
I usually don't like to ruffle feathers and try not to post personal opinion too often as it is often mistaken for staff opinion but here it goes
This is my personal opinion and personal opinion only as a member not a staff member.
It amazes me to see how much some people want to fit in just like if they were back in high school, wanted to be part of some cool kid click/club/group.
You are not creating anything new here with your concept, BP.net is a forum where people already seek advice and find people willing to help them.
So what would this group bring to the table that is not already there?
More combined advanced experience that people here do not provide?
Cool name?
Sugar coating vs truth when people make mistakes?
Kumbaya camp experience?
No longer derailing threads? (Interestingly enough the same people suggesting this group have caused many derailment all across the board)
For those wanted to be active part of this group what is this about? Is it about being able to be part of the cool kids? Is it because you lack the confidence to offer advice alone and you need to have a group to back you up?
Why not be an individual and offer help to those that needs it? Do you need to be a group to do that? I sure know I don't.
Thank you good lord I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. Its like a group of people who applied to be in club and then got rejected so they started their own. This forum is all about helping people and many experienced people on here love being on here and comb over every thread the advice people get is good why fix something that isn't broken? And on a side note Neal just because Somebody thought the idea wasnt good and They hurt your little feelings that doesnt mean you need to skip straight to giving them neative rep... did you do that for everybody who didnt think the idea was a good one! anybody else feel the wrath of neal? Grow up kid
Last edited by zach_24_90; 08-25-2013 at 07:19 PM.
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