Yellow bellies? weird stripe babies?

[TessadasExotics]

that would be awesome, I still can't really tell very well, with so many color variations, I've seen normals that look more yellow on the sides.
what do you think about the male adult? seems the consensus is that he is not.

The mother is without a doubt yellow belly. After looking at the pics again I am actually unsure about babies 1 and 3. They do scream YB but the belly is different. Baby number 2 is YB. YB does not mean that they have yellow bellies or even yellow sides. YB can be picked out by their speckled pattern next to the belly running the belly length and most have a head spot. The speckled pattern is much more pronounced and noticable on hatchlings and young snakes. As adults it can be a little harder to notice.
Not sure what your male is. He is not a YB. He could be a specter. He has some of the markings/looks. Baby 1 and 3 also have them. You should have cut open the bad eggs and taken pics of the dead babies. Could be you just didnt hit on a super stripe. I would do the same pairing again. You may be surprised.

[yzguy]

You should have cut open the bad eggs and taken pics of the dead babies.

2 more hatched and died in the incubator, I was pissed at the time and did not think to take pics. They did have full stripes and looked a lot like #3. The other 2 eggs I did cut open, but were not even formed enough to see any pattern.

I keep going back on forth on what I want to do with these, and noting real solid on what they may be. I got a lot more interest in them that I was expecting.

Turns out the non-stripe one is female and the 2 stripes are males.

Several local people tell me to keep them all to see what happens, but I just can’t help thinking that even if it is genetic and reproducible, I’m not sure it would be worth all that much (other types of stripes I see for $5-600). So far my best offer is a male breeder Spider YB and a hatchling male ivory for #2. I’m not sure I can pass that up….

so I think I'm keeping 1 and 3 and either keeping 2 or making that trade.

Next year I’ll put the mom and dad together again, and see what happens. then the year after

[yzguy]

then the year after, try 2 or #3 back to Mom.

[yzguy]

new pics added
#1 http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/?path=.../snake/normal/
#2 http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/?path=...snake/stripe1/
#3 http://www.1bad69.com/gallery/?path=...snake/stripe2/

[jimssnakes0808]

very nice

[yzguy]

Well a few local people have convinced me to keep them all and see what happens. Most seem to think that even #1 is not totally normal, and may be what dad is, what ever that is.

hopefully this was not just an incubation issue and is actually reproduce-able.

I was thinking of selling these, and ended up going to a show and bringing home 2 new snakes (ivory and pied)

[Inarikins]

I would keep them. Those babies are smoking. If dad doesn't manage to do it again, they're still cool snakes.

[beartg]

Maybe dad is a Harlequin. That could explain the stripe on the back.

I'm not sure which line:

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/harlequin/

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...uin-amir-line/

[yzguy]

Maybe dad is a Harlequin. That could explain the stripe on the back.

I'm not sure which line:

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/harlequin/

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...uin-amir-line/

funny you posted that.... I got the mom and dad from Amir about 5 years ago. (they were different sizes, so they were not clutch mates, but now that I think about it, they could have been related.)

So far Spector or Harlequin have been mentioned as to what the dad could be, but I don't see a lot of info as to what you could bread them with to prove them. Like breed 2 TB and get ivories to prove YB.

[zach_24_90]

Nahh specters do have the striping but it's just all wrong. I would go a hundred different ways before I got to specter. Harlequin being a top contender especially coming from Amir