Ok, I have one frozen rat pup left. I think I might try a live rat pup next week to see if he will even go for a rat and than the following week try the F/T rat pup and only offer his F/T from there. I don't want to give him to many changes all at once because I have only had him for a week so he is probably still getting used to his enclosure. I appreciate the tips, i am at least happily he ate that's a good start.