Is this a Bumblebee?

[Ball Clan]

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/

Play around on there.

That page has become a productivity killer for me at times lol

[Cham]

I will agree with that. Case in point. This is my big granite male, Bryan. Clearly not the best granite you'll see out there (but he's my baby so don't say a word lol j/k )


However, he produced this granite offspring, Ace, who is one of the prettiest balls I've seen in person.



So based on that experience, I would have to agree that even though it may be unlikely, a lower quality individual can potentially produce a stunner of an offspring.

He is so beautiful!

[Cham]

Oh, I will check it out thank you!

[4theSNAKElady]

I have a question...if you paid for a bumblebee, and the animal was sold as a bumblebee, why are you asking if its a bumblebee after you purchased it? I mean, "dirty" or not, bumblebees are pretty unmistakable. Just curious...

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[Coleslaw007]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here, breeding a bee to a bee isn't really recommended. There either isn't a super spider or it's a lethal combo, it's not yet been proven which, so breeding 2 spider gene animals together isn't the best idea.
I personally would not breed that bee, I would keep him as a pet and select better quality breeding stock in the future, but that's just me.

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[grcforce327]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here, breeding a bee to a bee isn't really recommended. There either isn't a super spider or it's a lethal combo,

First off,spider is dominant so no such thing as a super. Second,spider to spider is not lethal! I just hate when people show their ignorance online! Lets see what the originator of the spider has to say! The 1 minute mark.
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/vi...erd-video/316/

[Coleslaw007]

Um actually it really hasn't been proven one way or another, there's constantly back and forth arguing on this topic. I was trying to keep my answer simple so as not to confuse. "Don't do a spider to spider pairing." If they're still new to the morphs I'd rather just keep it simple and then can learn further as they go.

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[Cham]

I am new on ball python and new with the morphs out there.
I did had a feeling it was a bumblebee when I got him for my birthday but got curios when I saw the gray pattern on him (or that some of you call dirty).
So I searched bumblebee on google and did not find any one of them similar to the one I had so I got curios and decided to check it out here and may find answers to my question, and I did.

[Kodieh]

First off,spider is dominant so no such thing as a super. Second,spider to spider is not lethal! I just hate when people show their ignorance online! Lets see what the originator of the spider has to say! The 1 minute mark.
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/vi...erd-video/316/

I'm pretty sure you were the one who had an issue with TheSnakeGeek saying the same thing, which you know where that threads at. So,etc debate that further there.

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[Cham]

As for the breeding, i'm going to make a new thread in time about that in the breeding forums so this one doesn't get to much OT so you all are more than welcome to help me out there instead
A reptile market is soon coming here where I live so I'll probably get a male and female there and I would be glad for advice of morphs and breeding tips. So that's why I will open a new forum about that soon.

Anyway thanks all!
Now I will get back to study as hard as I can about morphs and breeding!