News: 2 die in rock python attack

[OctagonGecko729]

Here are some good links for you guys and gals for your "debates" that I'm sure your having with the uninformed. Kodie put this together to send to our family members in a email but I edited it down to the links for you all.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/08...python-attack/

Also, the % of injuries/deaths each year from pools, bathtubs and dogs in comparison to captive reptiles is silly.

http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/water-safety/waterinjuries-factsheet.html
http://www.tomkileylaw.com/library/child-injury-attorney-boston-bathtub-injury-lawyer-massachusetts.html
http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/dog-bites/biteprevention.html
http://usherp.org/tag/reptile-deaths/

"Captive reptile incident (all kinds, including salmonella) 1 in 4,040,294" Less than 1 person per year.

In case anyone was wondering!!!

[Kodieh]

Here are some good links for you guys and gals for your "debates" that I'm sure your having with the uninformed. Kodie put this together to send to our family members in a email but I edited it down to the links for you all.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/08...python-attack/

Also, the % of injuries/deaths each year from pools, bathtubs and dogs in comparison to captive reptiles is silly.

http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/water-safety/waterinjuries-factsheet.html
http://www.tomkileylaw.com/library/child-injury-attorney-boston-bathtub-injury-lawyer-massachusetts.html
http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/dog-bites/biteprevention.html
http://usherp.org/tag/reptile-deaths/

"Captive reptile incident (all kinds, including salmonella) 1 in 4,040,294" Less than 1 person per year.

In case anyone was wondering!!!

I did no such thing!

Nice to see another person with my name.

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[Slitherous]

I'm heartbroken for the children and their family, but I'm with the not quite convinced group so far. I kept three 13-14' burms at one point in my life, and though I think they would be plausibly capable of constricting a child to death, I just can't envision a scenario where they could constrict two children at once without anyone noticing, (or even that they would consider a human as food). I had a rare event last night which reinforced that skepticism; I got nailed by my male cinny last night while feeding, (he's a very aggressive feeder, knew it was feeding time and struck as soon as his tub was opened). What got me thinking though was his reaction......after hitting my hand he didn't attempt to constrict at all, he immediately seemed to realize he didn't have a mouse in his mouth and actually freaked out and tried to run away. He instantly ran to the dark end of the cage, rolled up in a ball and refused to feed after previously being in a very aggressive feeding mode, (he calmed down later and fed). Point being he knew he didn't have his usual meal in his mouth and retreated, something I think would be a normal reaction for any python. I know, I know, the kids smelled like farm animals, etc, etc......but I still can't quite get my head around it.....if true it was a very rare, unusual and aberrant incident. As Paul Harvey used to say; I can't wait to hear "the rest of the story". Of course, no matter what the truth turns out to be the damage to our hobby has been done, and prejudice against it will likely increase.

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[Bluebonnet Herp]

http://usherp.org/tag/reptile-deaths/

Damn! The government has a lot of regulations to do before we ban captive reptiles.

One day, oh one day, we'll have that perfect sanitary bubbly utopia that our oh-so-caring government wants to give us! Soon the environment will be saved, and we will be safe forever! And it will be, just oh sooooooooooooooooo perfect!







Not.

[Bluebonnet Herp]

...freaked out and tried to run away. He instantly ran to the dark end of the cage...

I couldn't help it.

[Slitherous]

I couldn't help it.

Ha, left myself open for that one didn't I? Really can't fault you for having a sense of humor! Poor choice of words on my part. I should have used the word "scooted", "slithered" "moved quickly", or some other descriptive word(s). Point being he tried to get away!

S

[BlueMoonExotics]

I don't think a psychopath would make a best friend and cry about their kids dying.

You would be surprised what a psychopath would do to get out of trouble. They are often deceitful and try to place the blame on others (possibly in this case a snake), as well as lying for personal profit. They can and do make friends quite easily, usually to benefit themselves. As far as him crying, I didn't see or hear any interviews where he was actually crying but I may have missed them in the sea of things floating around with this story. The interviews I did hear with him, he was quite calm and seemingly NOT emotional. He even admitted it himself in the interview, but he said it was because he was "in shock" which very well may be true.

I'm not saying he did it, I wouldn't dare say either way until all of the details are known, but don't think for a moment that a true psychopath wouldn't or couldn't do something like this. My mother is currently a MHP and a counselor for mental patients in the past. She still sees things that others would find to be very unbelievable, or that mental patients are "incapable" of doing or thinking such things...that doesn't make them any less true.

[Pythonfriend]

hey, pools, bathtubs and dogs are not particularly rare and quite dangerous


i would investigate:

- death by falling coconut. maybe around 150 cases per year.
- death by japanese pufferfish sushi (fugu) poisoning. only in japan, but japan is less populated than the USA and the numbers seem comparable.

another japanese one i find particularly interesting is death by mochi.

Because of mochi's extremely sticky texture, there is usually a small number of choking deaths around New Year in Japan, particularly amongst the elderly. The death toll is reported in newspapers in the days after New Year.

then there would be the classic one, death by lightning strike. it happens surprisingly frequently. For example:

1998 October: The entire association football team of Bena Tshadi playing against Basanga was killed by lightning during a match in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Everyone on Basanga, the home team, survived

as soon as the heart attack grill in Las Vegas turns into a franchise, then death by heart attack at the heart attack grill could become a contender.

death by winning big in gambling could also be one.


unfortunately sources for each of these are not that easy to find. But given the low numbers of death by snake, we should hit this ball right out of the park. And pools, tubs and dogs dont quite do it for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths for some inspiration.

How about self-torpedoing?

• 1942: 32 men died as a result of a chain of events that started when the British cruiser HMS Trinidad accidentally torpedoed itself.^[65]
• 1944: 74 men died when the US Submarine Tang (SS-306) accidentally torpedoed itself during a combat patrol off the coast of Taiwan.^[66]

[OctagonGecko729]

I did no such thing!

Nice to see another person with my name.

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You know whats funnier yet. She is Kodie H. as well

[Kodieh]

You would be surprised what a psychopath would do to get out of trouble.

At this point, they are sociopaths. Because they can function normally and can pass off false emotion as real emotion.

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