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08-07-2013, 05:53 AM
#181
News: 2 die in Boa Attack
 Originally Posted by Mike41793
Is it sad that two kids died? Yes.
Am i more saddened over the impact it'll have on my hobby? Yes.
Kids die all the time from all sorts of causes. Casey Anthony killed her kid without any snakes and she got away with it. I really think this guy did it and he sucks for dragging down our hobby with it.
Im going to have to agree with mike on this. Do I think its sad that these kids died, yes, but there is nothing we can do about that. Its like the mom a few months ago who went crazy and drove the wrong way on the autobahn and killed herself and her kids. Sad yea, why arnt we banning cars and autobahns??? Because people die and kids die every day on the streets. No one thinks twice about it, it doesnt make international news. Kids shoot eachother in the inner cities, teenagers overdose on drugs, kids drown in swimming pools, kids and people die every day probably every minute or more and no one thinks twice about it. Two kids die in a tragic accident involving a snake, which im still skeptical of, and everyone wants to jump in and start taking peoples rights away. Its not right and its not ok.
Last edited by eatgoodfood; 08-07-2013 at 05:54 AM.
0.1 Albino
0.2 Classic
0.1 Het. Red Axanthic
0.1 Mojave h. Ghost
0.1 Pastel
0.1 Spider h. Ghost
1.0 Black Pastel
1.0 Blue Eye Leucistic h. Ghost
1.0 Lesser
1.0 Pastel h. Ghost
0.1 Morelia bredli
0.0.1 Varanus acanthurus (Silly)
0.1 Brachypelma auratum
0.1 Scottisch Fold (Tipsy)
0.1 Abyssinian (Prim)
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08-07-2013, 06:06 AM
#182
Swimming pools....everyday living in AZ some kids drowned....every...single...day.
It is horrible and by no means do I have no ache in my heart for such a sad event but swooping down and already starting this "should we ban" BS is stupid.
Today is 'jungle week' at my youngests school.
I recieved permission so I am bringing my homie Tank with me to show these little kids and teachers that there is no reason to fear.
I encourage everyone to spread the factual info and love.
Balls
1.0 Bumblebee Het Ghost
1.0 Power ball
0.1 Fire Ghost
0.1 Butter Pin
Milks
1.0 Eastern milk snake
0.1 Extreme Hypo Honduran
Hognose
0.1 Western hognose Albino
Leopard Gecko
1.0 Sunglow
Beware his song about big butts. He beats you up while he ppppllllaaaaysss iiiit-- Eyugh!
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08-07-2013, 09:14 AM
#183
Re: News: 2 die in Boa Attack
I didn't say that snakes should be banned over this. In fact, I specifically said that the specific owner of that specific snake should be held responsible and no one else, snake included. Just because I didn't add one more, "This is crap! The snake didn't do it!" to the previous 17 pages of, "This is crap! The snake didn't do it!" that doesn't mean that I don't agree with everything that's been said. I just think that loss of life, especially the lives of children trumps loss of....well, anything else.
It's evident from reports of how he kept his animals and his past problems that this guy owning potentially dangerous animals was an accident waiting to happen. I think it's pretty ridiculous that anyone would look at this case and not be able to see that. Again- I am not advocating for a reptile ban. I'm simply advocating for a little compassion for the two little boys that are dead, regardless of how they died.
Adversity does not build character, it reveals it
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08-07-2013, 09:33 AM
#184
BPnet Veteran
Re: rock python kills 2 children
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08-07-2013, 10:09 AM
#185
Re: News: 2 die in Boa Attack
 Originally Posted by BrandiR
I didn't say that snakes should be banned over this. In fact, I specifically said that the specific owner of that specific snake should be held responsible and no one else, snake included.
And in a rational world that is exactly what would happen, but the average non-herper isn't all that rational about snakes. My understanding is that this snake was already being kept illegally and it has been euthanized, so it has also paid the price for its owner's stupidity and irresponsibility.
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08-07-2013, 11:11 AM
#186
They're playing close to the vest on the autopsy reports. One would think that if it fits the theory, then they'd blab it to the world the second it was confirmed.
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08-07-2013, 11:24 AM
#187
http://video.foxnews.com/v/258923795...=1821663211001
Foxnews.com put out this 2 minute video this morning stating that the owner called the snake "vicious" and that he wanted it put down. If you watch half way through the video they show a picture of the boys and say "this snake, nearly 14ft long" the screen splits and they show images of a BP and a small clip of a BP being held as they reference the Rock python...Fail.
SNAKES
1.0 Childrens Python
LIZARDS
0.1 B&W Tegu, 1.0 Bearded Dragon, 1.1 IJ Blue Tongue Skinks
FROGS
0.0.5 Dendrobates tinctorius 'Citronella'
DOGS
1.0 German Sherherd (Timber), 1.0 Wolf/Shepherd (Sabre), 1.0 Chihuahua (Taz), 0.1 Chihuahua (Penny), 0.1 Pitbull (Luna)
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08-07-2013, 11:34 AM
#188
I'm really trying to reserve judgement about this entire case until more conclusive evidence is brought forward, but right now, I wouldn't put this keeper below anything. He sounds like he needs to be brought in and questioned, if you ask me.
1.1 Ball Pythons
a) Calliope 0.1, Banana Ball, 2018/19 season, 600g
b) Geralt 1.0 Chocolate Sable Mojave pos. Trick ball, May 27th 2020
3.2 Cats (Fury, Leviathan, Walter, Chell, Amelie); 2.0 Dogs (Bjorn, Anubis); 2.1 Ferrets (Bran, Tormund, Arya); 0.1 Beardie (Nefertiti); 0.1 Slider Turtle (Species uncertain) (Papaya); 2.0 Hermit Crabs (Tamatoa, Sushi); 0.1 Conure (Mauii); Two Axolotyls (Quetzl and Unnamed); Two Tree Frogs (Pluto and Colossus); One Anole (Zeus); One Crestie (Noferatu); 3.0 Guinea Pigs (Paco, Poncho and Piccolo); 0.1 Pink Toe T (Azula)
Fish:
1.1 Oscar Cichlids (Rocky 1.0, hx2020, Red Fire, and Bubble 0.1, hx2019, Tiger), 1.1 Convict Cichlids (Hurley and Sloane), 0.1 Strawberry Peacock Cichlid (Comet), Two Plecos, Rubby the Rubbernose Pleco and Trinidad the common Pleco, 2.0 Upside Down Catfish (Poseidon, Neptune), One Red Parrot Cichlid (Firefly), 1.0 Betta Fish (Jenkins), 2.2 Cherry Barbs ("The Worst"), 1.0 Electric Blue Acara (Goldeneye)
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08-07-2013, 11:35 AM
#189
forget fox, just ignore it.....
while other mainstream media often gets things wrong, or fails to research properly, fox deliberately distorts the truth and disinforms people.
its the only news channel where viewers are less informed about issues than people that do not watch any news at all.
EDIT: and yes, im still waiting for autopsy reports / files being charged / results from the investigation. It looks very bad, but at the same time its not yet solid.
Last edited by Pythonfriend; 08-07-2013 at 11:36 AM.
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08-07-2013, 12:03 PM
#190
I just wish there were an easy way to get the general public to understand not all snakes are the same. The arguments I'm seeing the most as a result of this are:
- Snakes aren't domesticated and shouldn't be kept as "pets"
- Snakes are killers and dangerous and shouldn't be kept in captivity
- Snakes are wild animals and shouldn't be kept in captivity
- Snakes can't be properly provided for and therefore shouldn't be kept in captivity
- Most people can't properly care for a snake, therefore no one should keep snakes
- Snakes eat live animals, which are cruelly kept and bred, and therefore it is cruel to keep snakes in captivity
- Snakes don't have affection for people, therefore aren't "pets"
- Snakes become invasive species that eat native wildlife in threatened habitat, therefore no snakes should be kept in captivity any where
There might be a few more, but those are the big ones. It isn't hard to refute any of those, but people who are blind and deaf won't listen or see reason, nor will the see or hear the fallacies in their own arguments.
Why keep a snake? Why keep any animal? Because you enjoy the animal, find something beautiful and fascinating about it, and it fits seamlessly into your lifestyle.
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