New baby girl.

[interloc]

Because this is a cinny lesser


When you add cinny to lesser, the yellow goes away and more greys and browns are added. Also the side pattern gets squashed and attached. I'm 100% sure the animal you posted has no cinny in it. I'm not trying to offend. If anything, I'm trying to help you because you should NOT be paying cinny lesser price for that snake. Someone is confused or lying to you.

[mattb]

Because this is a cinny lesser


When you add cinny to lesser, the yellow goes away and more greys and browns are added. I'm 100% sure the animal you posted has no cinny in it. I'm not trying to offend. If anything, I'm trying to help you because you should NOT be paying cinny lesser price for that snake. Someone is confused or lying to you.

I am not offended. I just think that the photos are not showing her off good. I know that the pic is a prime example of the morph. At the same time I don't have any reason to doubt what the person told me.

[interloc]

Well if you are ok paying way more for a lesser than what you should be spending, that's fine. No skin of my back. But it's wrong.

I'm getting a butter cinny in a month or so, and when I do I will send you a pic of what they are supposed to look like. I may be coming off as a butt hole here, but lithiums (butter/lesser cinny) are one of my favourite morph combos. I know what they should look like. That IS NOT one. I don't care who told you it is. It is not.

[mattb]

Well if you are ok paying way more for a lesser than what you should be spending, that's fine. No skin of my back. But it's wrong.

I'm getting a butter cinny in a month or so, and when I do I will send you a pic of what they are supposed to look like. I may be coming off as a butt hole here, but lithiums (butter/lesser cinny) are one of my favourite morph combos. I know what they should look like. That IS NOT one. I don't care who told you it is. It is not.

Well I am paying no where near those prices. But let me ask what you think of this one?

[interloc]

Well I am paying no where near those prices. But let me ask what you think of this one?

That has everything I said up there ^
-brown
-greys
-squished pattern

Also I forgot to add that cinny often adds striping. So yes. That is a lithium. Why would you choose a snake to show me that looked nothing like yours to prove your point? The amount of bright yellow in your snake is the biggest factor here. None of the lithiums on WOBP are anywhere near that yellow.

[TJ_Burton]

I'd have to agree with the crowed and say that what you have there is just a lesser.

There are a few obvious tells for the lesser/butter cinnamon combo and yours shows none of them.

- Darker heads with lighter faded eye stripes
- Melding alien heads forming chains or stripes down the sides of the body
- Longer, more exaggerated dorsal striping
- Silver eyes
- Body color is a more chocolate brown on the back and sides than a butter or lesser which is more of an orange/brown color

None of these individually make the morph, its more of a collection of these traits that give the morph its distinction.

[mattb]

That has everything I said up there ^
-brown
-greys
-squished pattern

Also I forgot to add that cinny often adds striping. So yes. That is a lithium. Why would you choose a snake to show me that looked nothing like yours to prove your point? The amount of bright yellow in your snake is the biggest factor here. None of the lithiums on WOBP are anywhere near that yellow.

Actually that is not a true lithium. It is a cinnamon lesser and not a cinnamon butter but that is just grasping. Though I did find this one that looks pretty close to mine.

[interloc]

Actually that is not a true lithium. It is a cinnamon lesser and not a cinnamon butter but that is just grasping. Though I did find this one that looks pretty close to mine.

I'm done. The snake you have is not a cinny x lesser/butter. It's only a lesser. I'm not debating with you. I'm TELLING you.

[mattb]

I'm done. The snake you have is not a cinny x lesser/butter. It's only a lesser. I'm not debating with you. I'm TELLING you.

Ok. I don't know what's wrong with a debate. I am just getting clarification. The last one I posted looks a lot like mine. It does have the spots on the back and isn't a brownish color.

So your TELLING me. Didn't know that you were a BP god.

[TJ_Burton]

Actually that is not a true lithium. It is a cinnamon lesser and not a cinnamon butter but that is just grasping. Though I did find this one that looks pretty close to mine.

That is a nice example of the combo, but again, yours is not a cinnamon lesser by the looks of it.

If you do not want to believe the members trying to enlighten you on this thread, there is nothing we can do about it. Just take what we are saying into consideration. I produced 3 lithiums and a butter in the same clutch last week, and I have a pretty darn good sense of what they are supposed to look like. Interloc is a lithium fan and knows his stuff as well, and despite being a little abrupt in his delivery, is trying to give you some good advice regarding the snake you've posted pictures of and have been given misinformation on.

It's a great looking snake, its just not what you were told it was.